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I wouldn't be surprised if you're right, but how do you know that's what this means? I would think the ACLU would be all over that and would have at least ment

by maqr 13y ago

I wouldn't be surprised if you're right, but how do you know that's what this means? I would think the ACLU would be all over that and would have at least mentioned it in the press release.

ck2 13y ago
It means the fake "checkpoints" that already exist in certain states like Texas that are a hundred miles inland, are completely legitimized. There was a guy who was almost beaten to death at one of them for refusing to comply, there is a youtube video somewhere of it. News like this is buried just like all the gun deaths every week in Chicago, it never makes national news for some reason I don't quite understand.
- tptacek 13y ago
  The only videos I've seen are of people refusing to comply and being waved through. In one of those videos, the driver was asked for proof of citizenship, and spent 4 minutes attempting to demand proof of citizenship from the agent before they finally waved him through. It's pretty great. Also: be careful that we're talking about the same thing. There are CBP searches that protect border integrity and search for contraband, and then there are ICE checkpoints that aim to catch illegal immigrants. In practice, ICE's authority is nothing like CBP's: CBP's is much more potent, and CBP is what this article is talking about.
  - stephenbez 13y ago
    This video shows a pastor being beaten and tased by border patrol after not answering their questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duSiAwGzU9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duSiAwGzU9c http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/17/20090417borderbeating0417-ON.html http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/17/20090417bo...
    - tptacek 13y ago
      CBP attempted to have this guy charged as a result of this incident. A judge dismissed all those charges with prejudice, in part because CBP couldn't show that the search was legal. He's now a plaintiff in a civil suit, where that dismissal will presumably be damning evidence. Additional wrinkle in this case: a dog authorized the search.

by maqr 13y ago

I wouldn't be surprised if you're right, but how do you know that's what this means? I would think the ACLU would be all over that and would have at least mentioned it in the press release.

ck2 13y ago

It means the fake "checkpoints" that already exist in certain states like Texas that are a hundred miles inland, are completely legitimized. There was a guy who was almost beaten to death at one of them for refusing to comply, there is a youtube video somewhere of it. News like this is buried just like all the gun deaths every week in Chicago, it never makes national news for some reason I don't quite understand.

tptacek 13y ago
The only videos I've seen are of people refusing to comply and being waved through. In one of those videos, the driver was asked for proof of citizenship, and spent 4 minutes attempting to demand proof of citizenship from the agent before they finally waved him through. It's pretty great. Also: be careful that we're talking about the same thing. There are CBP searches that protect border integrity and search for contraband, and then there are ICE checkpoints that aim to catch illegal immigrants. In practice, ICE's authority is nothing like CBP's: CBP's is much more potent, and CBP is what this article is talking about.
- stephenbez 13y ago
  This video shows a pastor being beaten and tased by border patrol after not answering their questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duSiAwGzU9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duSiAwGzU9c http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/17/20090417borderbeating0417-ON.html http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/17/20090417bo...
  - tptacek 13y ago
    CBP attempted to have this guy charged as a result of this incident. A judge dismissed all those charges with prejudice, in part because CBP couldn't show that the search was legal. He's now a plaintiff in a civil suit, where that dismissal will presumably be damning evidence. Additional wrinkle in this case: a dog authorized the search.