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LOL... steam and all their holier than thou blog posts about being open and better than Microsoft - That was never anything more than a rant about the Windows

LOL... steam and all their holier than thou blog posts about being open and better than Microsoft - That was never anything more than a rant about the Windows 8 built in app market that they were afraid would undercut their profits and dominance (a scheme against competition). They are neither open nor respect rights of ownership. AFAIK, Microsoft themselves have never forcefully removed an app from Windows in this manner.

tokenizerrr 13y ago
Did you even read the article? The game was to become literally unplayable because its developers (Square Enix) decided to pull the plug on the DRM and multiplayer servers instead of handing out a DRM-disabling patch.
- mortyseinfeld 13y ago
  So you're justifying Steam deleting the game, even though you won't come out and say it.
freehunter 13y ago
Microsoft certainly did remove apps from Windows even after they are purchased. They had Crackdown on WP7 as a tower defense game. They shut down the servers and the game disappeared, never to be seen again. Really pissed me off. They also refused to update their Texas Hold'em game, so when I moved to WP8, the game I had purchased disappeared.
- goggles99 13y ago
  FYI, When someone says "Windows" they generally are talking about a PC desktop. Not a phone version. I am guessing that you probably already know this, but want to push any angle for a rebuttal. I am referring to Windows 8 specifically (yes the PC version) because this is the version that Steam was vying as evil.
  - freehunter 13y ago
    Comparing Steam to Windows is invalid to begin with. The only valid comparison is comparing Steam to a similar Microsoft offering. The Windows 8 marketplace and the Windows Phone marketplace are not dissimilar, so my point remains valid. Microsoft cannot remove applications from Windows because they do not control the distribution. They can and have removed apps from their controlled distribution channels which are comparable with Steam (which is what Valve considers their competition). Valve isn't worried about Windows 8 desktop, they're worried about Windows Marketplace. Your attempted comparison is like saying Netflix has never broken into your house and stolen your DVDs. They can't do that because that's not a distribution channel they control. They can and have removed movies from their own distribution channel. If you want to argue Windows desktop versus Steam, though, Microsoft does control Windows Defender anti-virus which can force-remove applications or prevent them from running. In that sense, Microsoft surely can deny you access to application you've purchased. Your comparison is still uniquely inappropriate, though.

tokenizerrr 13y ago

Did you even read the article? The game was to become literally unplayable because its developers (Square Enix) decided to pull the plug on the DRM and multiplayer servers instead of handing out a DRM-disabling patch.

mortyseinfeld 13y ago
So you're justifying Steam deleting the game, even though you won't come out and say it.

freehunter 13y ago

Microsoft certainly did remove apps from Windows even after they are purchased. They had Crackdown on WP7 as a tower defense game. They shut down the servers and the game disappeared, never to be seen again. Really pissed me off. They also refused to update their Texas Hold'em game, so when I moved to WP8, the game I had purchased disappeared.

goggles99 13y ago
FYI, When someone says "Windows" they generally are talking about a PC desktop. Not a phone version. I am guessing that you probably already know this, but want to push any angle for a rebuttal. I am referring to Windows 8 specifically (yes the PC version) because this is the version that Steam was vying as evil.
- freehunter 13y ago
  Comparing Steam to Windows is invalid to begin with. The only valid comparison is comparing Steam to a similar Microsoft offering. The Windows 8 marketplace and the Windows Phone marketplace are not dissimilar, so my point remains valid. Microsoft cannot remove applications from Windows because they do not control the distribution. They can and have removed apps from their controlled distribution channels which are comparable with Steam (which is what Valve considers their competition). Valve isn't worried about Windows 8 desktop, they're worried about Windows Marketplace. Your attempted comparison is like saying Netflix has never broken into your house and stolen your DVDs. They can't do that because that's not a distribution channel they control. They can and have removed movies from their own distribution channel. If you want to argue Windows desktop versus Steam, though, Microsoft does control Windows Defender anti-virus which can force-remove applications or prevent them from running. In that sense, Microsoft surely can deny you access to application you've purchased. Your comparison is still uniquely inappropriate, though.