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Full quote: > If we really wanted to fix this problem, what we would have to do is not encourage women to start startups now. It’s already too late. What we sh

Full quote: > If we really wanted to fix this problem, what we would have to do is not encourage women to start startups now. It’s already too late. What we should be doing is somehow changing the middle school computer science curriculum or something like that. I don't think he meant to say that women should be specifically discouraged from starting startups. And that interpretation does not fit with the rest of what he said in the interview.

abalone 13y ago
Splitting hairs over "not encourage" vs. "discourage" is sort of in the same vein as "these women" vs. "women". It's missing the point. He said it's "too late" for women at this stage, if they haven't been hacking since 13. What part of "too late" suggests that pg thinks there's more proactive stuff we can do? pg's point is clearly that we're fine and the problem lies 10 years up the line because middle school isn't doing enough to get 13 year old girls interested in hacking, because god knows how the heck you do that. It's passing the buck.
- kordless 13y ago
  If you aren't coding at 13, then you won't be able to start a company (coding) at 23. That's the point he was and still is trying to make. You, on the other hand, are trying to make an entirely different point, which appears to be that PG said something 'damning'. The only PEOPLE he's discouraging from doing startups are people who haven't been hacking for 10 some-odd years before ASKING FOR HIS MONEY AND DOING A STARTUP WITH IT. It's not his job to get (more) 13 year old girls up and hacking. He is but one person, after all. FWIW, whatever point you are trying to make was lost the second you started 'literally quoting' PG in your post. As it turns out, changing a few words here and there and putting emphasis where it suits your agenda happens to be an egregious misstep in having empathy for someone's position and being heard yourself. Makes me sorta sad to see this behavior continue well after it's been explained thoroughly. Your choice though.

abalone 13y ago

Splitting hairs over "not encourage" vs. "discourage" is sort of in the same vein as "these women" vs. "women". It's missing the point. He said it's "too late" for women at this stage, if they haven't been hacking since 13. What part of "too late" suggests that pg thinks there's more proactive stuff we can do? pg's point is clearly that we're fine and the problem lies 10 years up the line because middle school isn't doing enough to get 13 year old girls interested in hacking, because god knows how the heck you do that. It's passing the buck.

kordless 13y ago
If you aren't coding at 13, then you won't be able to start a company (coding) at 23. That's the point he was and still is trying to make. You, on the other hand, are trying to make an entirely different point, which appears to be that PG said something 'damning'. The only PEOPLE he's discouraging from doing startups are people who haven't been hacking for 10 some-odd years before ASKING FOR HIS MONEY AND DOING A STARTUP WITH IT. It's not his job to get (more) 13 year old girls up and hacking. He is but one person, after all. FWIW, whatever point you are trying to make was lost the second you started 'literally quoting' PG in your post. As it turns out, changing a few words here and there and putting emphasis where it suits your agenda happens to be an egregious misstep in having empathy for someone's position and being heard yourself. Makes me sorta sad to see this behavior continue well after it's been explained thoroughly. Your choice though.