I don't think "these" was supposed to be referring to anything in the sentence or around the sentence there. It was being used as sort of a quantifier, as in "t

I don't think "these" was supposed to be referring to anything in the sentence or around the sentence there. It was being used as sort of a quantifier, as in "there are some women who haven't been hacking and we cannot make them see things as a hacker". Of course "these women" refers to something different than "women". i.e. "for all women who have not been hacking for at least 10 years, it is not possible to make them see things as a hacker" vs. "for all women, it is not possible to make them see things as a hacker". You can clearly see they mean two very different things because in the first one you are quantifying over a proper subset of women.