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So far seems he hasn't; he's explained why, and all the more power to him. BTW, I'm disappointed that only "witch hunt" (terrorism against women) is used in th

So far seems he hasn't; he's explained why, and all the more power to him. BTW, I'm disappointed that only "witch hunt" (terrorism against women) is used in this particular thread so far. Where's "lynch mob" and "McCarthyism", to round out the irony trifecta? (Hilariously sick when men liken themselves to women, whites to blacks, and capitalists to communists.)

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iamjustin 13y ago
Both men and women were killed during the Salem Witch Trials. A "witch hunt" isn't terrorism against women.
- aaronem 13y ago
  I seem to remember hearing that the final score in Salem being nineteen women and one man. Given this data, trivial statistical analysis tells us that the use of "witch hunt" in this context is 95% sexist, a value well within the margin of error.
  - iamjustin 13y ago
    21 were executed, 6 male. Regardless, in common use, when someone uses the term 'witch hunt', it's gender-neutral.
    - aaronem 13y ago
      Citizen, surely you need no reminding that so-called "gender neutrality" is merely a sexist excuse for the ongoing structural oppression of women and gender-fluid individuals.
  - klipt 13y ago
    Only if you ignore all witch hunts outside Salem. That would be incredibly US-centric. Bertrand Guilladot and Louis Debaraz come to mind. Anyhow, that completely misses the point - that witch trials were based on a presumption of guilt against which no defense could be made. Much like the way certain media sites attack people.
    - aaronem 13y ago
      Literature review and meta-analysis seemed out of scope, considering the comment to which I replied. (And I seem to've fallen into the HN trap of being too straight-faced about a smart-assed comment.)
- fhars 13y ago
  75% to 80% of the killed victims were women, though, so it was mostly terrorism against women, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Execution_statistics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Execution_statistics
aaronem 13y ago
I've found @jacobian's statement on the matter [1] eminently reasonable and even-handed. As for the trifecta, I can't help you out on "lynch mob", I'm afraid, but how about this for McCarthyism? "The [tech industry] is infested with [sexists]. I have here in my hand [2] a list of [102] -- a list of [user]names that were made known to the [Github administrators] as being members of the [sexist majority] and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the [tech industry]." [3] [1] https://twitter.com/jacobian/status/417776560603549696 https://twitter.com/jacobian/status/417776560603549696 [2] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a3j7b1RFN1IJ:https://twitter.com/ashedryden/status/411614204152385536+ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a3j7b1R... (This link points to Google's cache of @ashedryden's tweet, because the tweet as originally hosted on Twitter has been deleted since I saw it last. I hope you'll agree that Google's cache is an acceptably authoritative source for what used to be hosted at that Twitter URL. The replies are more interesting than the original tweet, anyway.) [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#Wheeling_speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#Wheeling_speech
klipt 13y ago
> Hilariously sick when men liken themselves to women Believing men and women are equal is "sick" now? What a strange notion.

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iamjustin 13y ago

Both men and women were killed during the Salem Witch Trials. A "witch hunt" isn't terrorism against women.

aaronem 13y ago
I seem to remember hearing that the final score in Salem being nineteen women and one man. Given this data, trivial statistical analysis tells us that the use of "witch hunt" in this context is 95% sexist, a value well within the margin of error.
- iamjustin 13y ago
  21 were executed, 6 male. Regardless, in common use, when someone uses the term 'witch hunt', it's gender-neutral.
  - aaronem 13y ago
    Citizen, surely you need no reminding that so-called "gender neutrality" is merely a sexist excuse for the ongoing structural oppression of women and gender-fluid individuals.
- klipt 13y ago
  Only if you ignore all witch hunts outside Salem. That would be incredibly US-centric. Bertrand Guilladot and Louis Debaraz come to mind. Anyhow, that completely misses the point - that witch trials were based on a presumption of guilt against which no defense could be made. Much like the way certain media sites attack people.
  - aaronem 13y ago
    Literature review and meta-analysis seemed out of scope, considering the comment to which I replied. (And I seem to've fallen into the HN trap of being too straight-faced about a smart-assed comment.)
fhars 13y ago
75% to 80% of the killed victims were women, though, so it was mostly terrorism against women, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Execution_statistics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Execution_statistics

aaronem 13y ago

I've found @jacobian's statement on the matter [1] eminently reasonable and even-handed. As for the trifecta, I can't help you out on "lynch mob", I'm afraid, but how about this for McCarthyism? "The [tech industry] is infested with [sexists]. I have here in my hand [2] a list of [102] -- a list of [user]names that were made known to the [Github administrators] as being members of the [sexist majority] and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the [tech industry]." [3] [1] https://twitter.com/jacobian/status/417776560603549696 https://twitter.com/jacobian/status/417776560603549696 [2] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a3j7b1RFN1IJ:https://twitter.com/ashedryden/status/411614204152385536+ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a3j7b1R... (This link points to Google's cache of @ashedryden's tweet, because the tweet as originally hosted on Twitter has been deleted since I saw it last. I hope you'll agree that Google's cache is an acceptably authoritative source for what used to be hosted at that Twitter URL. The replies are more interesting than the original tweet, anyway.) [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#Wheeling_speech http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#Wheeling_speech

klipt 13y ago

> Hilariously sick when men liken themselves to women Believing men and women are equal is "sick" now? What a strange notion.