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Okay, so the PlayHaven guy got fired. Adria had death threats made against her, was the subject of a beheading picture, had her home address and phone number pu
by theorique 13y ago
Okay, so the PlayHaven guy got fired. Adria had death threats made against her, was the subject of a beheading picture, had her home address and phone number publicized, her employer was DDOSed, and she was ultimately fired, like the PlayHaven guy.
Neither one is acceptable. The mob action is obviously worse, but both punishments were wrong.
What should have happened (wishful thinking I know) is that AR could have told the guys to knock it off, or gone to staff without tweeting a picture to make a complaint if she was not comfortable with a one-on-one disagreement.
In that case the very competent PyCon staff would have mediated the complaint, and no one would have heard about it beyond a small circle of a few dozen people.
- philwelch 13y agoThis kind of thinking is anathema to SJW ideology. Example: https://twitter.com/eassumption/status/416999484581625856 https://twitter.com/eassumption/status/416999484581625856
- theorique 13y agoInteresting. Jumping to the worst possible conclusion / interpretation of someone's words seems to be a hallmark of this style of 'activism'. Which leads to especially aggressive debates and misunderstandings, especially when people are on Twitter and constrained to <140 characters.
- jsmthrowaway 13y agoThe one tweet in there about private conversations enabling power dynamics is interesting. jdunck told me via email that he refuses to even discuss this stuff privately because I have to own up to my comment publicly, which really confused the hell out of me. But now it makes more sense. I was also ready to just accept it as SJWs wanting help in a group from someone who calls them on their bullshit. Probably a little of column A, little of column B.
- theorique 13y agoprivate conversations enabling power dynamics Public conversations also enable power dynamics. They just enable power dynamics of a different sort - mobbing, pile-ons, and other forms of collective shaming.