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30C3 Keynote with Glenn Greenwald

57 points by znq 13y ago

Mithaldu 13y ago
One of the very first points Greenwald makes is that encryption software is ridiculously hard to install and use for even versed users, nevermind the general populace. I didn't check the rest of the conference materials, but i've no doubt that nobody picked up on that; even though it represents a very hard but very worthwhile problem to pursue and solve.
- znq 13y ago
  A piece of encryption software for mobile instant messaging that is relatively easy to install and use is Threema https://threema.ch/en/ https://threema.ch/en/. It appears to be quite popular among 30C3 attendees this year. I was also able to convince about 20 of my non-geek friends to use it instead of WhatsApp. It doesn't support group chat on Android yet (on iOS it does), but it's under development. The security section on the FAQ page might be interesting to HN readers: https://threema.ch/en/faq.html https://threema.ch/en/faq.html (I'm not affiliated with Threema)
  - XorNot 13y ago
    I'm noticing this app is not open-source in anyway. That's game-over with the types of threats HN is concerned about these days. Of course to some degree, the smartphone is so compromised in so many different ways that it's basically not even worth trying. Your SIM card runs code against you, the OS reports back in dozens of ways to 2-3 different entities, app stores can't be trusted, advertisers...
    - znq 13y ago
      The app itself is not, but the crypto part is. Also see https://threema.ch/validation/ https://threema.ch/validation/
- johnbm 13y ago
  Perhaps... but even when sent a video with clear instructions, he balked at actually watching it, never mind following it. Even though he was a journalist who admittedly likes to publish things others find inconvenient. I think it says more about journalists' egos than anything else. Have you ever been happy with an article on a topic you have intimate first hand knowledge of?
- follower 13y ago
  > I didn't check the rest of the conference materials, but i've no doubt that nobody picked up on that; There were a couple of talks that appear related to that topic: * "Beyond the Tech: Building Internet Freedom Tools for Real People" <http://events.ccc.de/congress/2013/Fahrplan/events/5550.html> * "The Internet (Doesn't) Need Another Security Guide" <http://events.ccc.de/congress/2013/Fahrplan/events/5538.html>
kmfrk 13y ago
It was a great keynote, for anyone wondering. I think Greenwald can be a bit dull to listen to - probably the legal background - but he struck a nice balance and even included some ever-so-rare self-deprecation. :)
Dirlewanger 13y ago
No idea what this site is or what the keynote's about. A little background please?
- fit2rule 13y ago
  The CCC is one of the oldest hacker-oriented computer conferences in Europe. Many wonderful things have sprung from this font of hackerdom. Glenn Greenwald is the guy who broke the Edward Snowden/NSA story this year. He was invited to do the keynote address at CCC, and he gave us all many important things to think about. I strongly suggest you take the 30 minutes to watch the keynote, and gain your own understanding of the issues he brings up - this is vital to our future.
  - davidw 13y ago
    Why take 30 minutes to watch it when you can read it in something like 5? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6984525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6984525
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WatchDog 13y ago
The video has a English and German audio track, I couldn't figure out how to get English in Firefox, but it was simple to switch with VLC.

57 points by znq 13y ago

One of the very first points Greenwald makes is that encryption software is ridiculously hard to install and use for even versed users, nevermind the general populace. I didn't check the rest of the conference materials, but i've no doubt that nobody picked up on that; even though it represents a very hard but very worthwhile problem to pursue and solve.

znq 13y ago
A piece of encryption software for mobile instant messaging that is relatively easy to install and use is Threema https://threema.ch/en/ https://threema.ch/en/. It appears to be quite popular among 30C3 attendees this year. I was also able to convince about 20 of my non-geek friends to use it instead of WhatsApp. It doesn't support group chat on Android yet (on iOS it does), but it's under development. The security section on the FAQ page might be interesting to HN readers: https://threema.ch/en/faq.html https://threema.ch/en/faq.html (I'm not affiliated with Threema)
- XorNot 13y ago
  I'm noticing this app is not open-source in anyway. That's game-over with the types of threats HN is concerned about these days. Of course to some degree, the smartphone is so compromised in so many different ways that it's basically not even worth trying. Your SIM card runs code against you, the OS reports back in dozens of ways to 2-3 different entities, app stores can't be trusted, advertisers...
  - znq 13y ago
    The app itself is not, but the crypto part is. Also see https://threema.ch/validation/ https://threema.ch/validation/
johnbm 13y ago
Perhaps... but even when sent a video with clear instructions, he balked at actually watching it, never mind following it. Even though he was a journalist who admittedly likes to publish things others find inconvenient. I think it says more about journalists' egos than anything else. Have you ever been happy with an article on a topic you have intimate first hand knowledge of?
follower 13y ago
> I didn't check the rest of the conference materials, but i've no doubt that nobody picked up on that; There were a couple of talks that appear related to that topic: * "Beyond the Tech: Building Internet Freedom Tools for Real People" <http://events.ccc.de/congress/2013/Fahrplan/events/5550.html> * "The Internet (Doesn't) Need Another Security Guide" <http://events.ccc.de/congress/2013/Fahrplan/events/5538.html>

kmfrk 13y ago

It was a great keynote, for anyone wondering. I think Greenwald can be a bit dull to listen to - probably the legal background - but he struck a nice balance and even included some ever-so-rare self-deprecation. :)

Dirlewanger 13y ago

No idea what this site is or what the keynote's about. A little background please?

fit2rule 13y ago
The CCC is one of the oldest hacker-oriented computer conferences in Europe. Many wonderful things have sprung from this font of hackerdom. Glenn Greenwald is the guy who broke the Edward Snowden/NSA story this year. He was invited to do the keynote address at CCC, and he gave us all many important things to think about. I strongly suggest you take the 30 minutes to watch the keynote, and gain your own understanding of the issues he brings up - this is vital to our future.
- davidw 13y ago
  Why take 30 minutes to watch it when you can read it in something like 5? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6984525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6984525
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WatchDog 13y ago

The video has a English and German audio track, I couldn't figure out how to get English in Firefox, but it was simple to switch with VLC.