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> huge stigma against men who wanted to become nurses because it was a job "for women" and what kind of man would want to do that kind of thing. ...and that's
by draugadrotten 13y ago
> huge stigma against men who wanted to become nurses because it was a job "for women" and what kind of man would want to do that kind of thing.
...and that's exactly the kind of label that women slaps on tech jobs. "What kind of woman would want to {drive race cars,work 60 hour weeks coding,debug java threads,maintain virtual server farms}"
And there you have it. It's clearly the oppressive white males' fault.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 13y ago"and that's exactly the kind of label that women slaps on tech jobs" what kind of world are you living in because it's not one I've visited.
- wlievens 13y agoActually it is what I remember from most girls in high school (late nineties): they want to work "with people instead of machines". It's a stigma that existed then in girls' minds and presumably still does, at least where I live. I'm all for more women in tech, even if only to make the workforce more diverse. I'm also all for more minorities in tech, sure. Where I live, working in a tech job means 95% of youf colleagues will be white, male, middle class thirty-year olds. But I have a gut feeling that at least in my environment, it's the fault of young women's mindset, not of "the system".
- GFK_of_xmaspast 13y agoThat's not at all the same kind of thing. Here's some male nurses talking about their experiences: http://allnurses.com/nursing-career-advice/you-ashamed-being-7415-page14.html http://allnurses.com/nursing-career-advice/you-ashamed-being... """ I'm not "ashamed" of being an RN but it's hard when you are a guy and around other people that are uninformed about nursing. I dont use the term "nurse" because many people associate that term with a variety of menial jobs. I tell them I'm an RN. Even that doesnt register with many people. Of course being a guy I'm always asked "when are you starting med school?" or I get a veiled smirk and they say something like "oh you're a male nurse.." as if I'm a pariah or something. """
- vacri 13y agoIt's clearly the oppressive white males' fault. The general public have no idea what "debug java threads" or "maintain virtual server farms" means, and being a programmer isn't particularly associated with long work days. It's also quite a stretch to call driving a race car a 'tech job'. I think you need to reconsider your perspective on the issue.
- dragonwriter 13y agoLooking at it in terms of "fault" is particularly unhelpful -- and irrelevant to what most organizations, including the one that is the subject of this thread, looking to break down cultural barriers are doing.