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But Tulsa Codes would exist for logistical and practical reasons (it makes sense to organize people who already live in an area). Girls Code is associated (fai

But Tulsa Codes would exist for logistical and practical reasons (it makes sense to organize people who already live in an area). Girls Code is associated (fairly or not) with an ideological movement to correct for oppression and privilege that exists in our society. People who disagree with this movement will of course post about it when they see these articles.

tptacek 13y ago
Yes. Exactly my point. The problem people have with "Girls Code" is that accepting it requires them to accept that women have been at some point treated unfairly.
- stirno 13y ago
  I personally have no issue with "Black Girls Code" or any other groups like that -- mostly because any work done to educate more people (of any gender, race, sexuality, whatever) about what we do is a positive. Moreover its important that people who decide to contribute in this way (teachers, mentors, etc) feel like they are helping a group they care deeply about and/or can identify with. Having said that I do wish we had more events targeting all kinds of youth with the goal of changing the mentality of future developers/engineers. If they learn in diverse groups (including some level of age diversity, preferably) I feel they'd have a better shot at creating a 'new normal' for the future.
- hacker789 13y ago
  Let's look at what you said above. > But nobody has a problem with "Tulsa Codes!". Threads aren't full of people ranting about "third wave feminism" when they do. If young Tulsa residents were more already more wealthy and more educated than young Oklahoma City residents, people would certainly complain about "Tulsa activists" if: 1. Companies were demonized by "Tulsa activists" for hiring young people from Oklahoma City for tech jobs, or 2. Mobs of internet "Tulsa activists" bullied people who dared to suggest that we shouldn't be spending extra money trying to further the achievement gap between young people from Tulsa and young people from Oklahoma City, or 3. "Tulsa activists" accused you of hating young people from "Tulsa" if you disagreed with any of their points.

tptacek 13y ago

Yes. Exactly my point. The problem people have with "Girls Code" is that accepting it requires them to accept that women have been at some point treated unfairly.

stirno 13y ago
I personally have no issue with "Black Girls Code" or any other groups like that -- mostly because any work done to educate more people (of any gender, race, sexuality, whatever) about what we do is a positive. Moreover its important that people who decide to contribute in this way (teachers, mentors, etc) feel like they are helping a group they care deeply about and/or can identify with. Having said that I do wish we had more events targeting all kinds of youth with the goal of changing the mentality of future developers/engineers. If they learn in diverse groups (including some level of age diversity, preferably) I feel they'd have a better shot at creating a 'new normal' for the future.
hacker789 13y ago
Let's look at what you said above. > But nobody has a problem with "Tulsa Codes!". Threads aren't full of people ranting about "third wave feminism" when they do. If young Tulsa residents were more already more wealthy and more educated than young Oklahoma City residents, people would certainly complain about "Tulsa activists" if: 1. Companies were demonized by "Tulsa activists" for hiring young people from Oklahoma City for tech jobs, or 2. Mobs of internet "Tulsa activists" bullied people who dared to suggest that we shouldn't be spending extra money trying to further the achievement gap between young people from Tulsa and young people from Oklahoma City, or 3. "Tulsa activists" accused you of hating young people from "Tulsa" if you disagreed with any of their points.