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Does anyone really think the textbooks in the US are showing the barbarism our country is displaying right now - let alone 70 years ago? Civilian casualty rate

by capred 13y ago

Does anyone really think the textbooks in the US are showing the barbarism our country is displaying right now - let alone 70 years ago? Civilian casualty rates in Iraq and Afghanistan (in the 7 figures) would bring war crimes indictments to the leaders of other nations. Indiscriminate drone attacks in multiple countries have killed hundreds of children. You can call everyone a terrorist but I think its fair to say being under 12 years old should exempt you from being murdered. Let me make my point more crisp if it isn't clear - the worse war crimes committed by the US, French, British, Russian...etc are not Chapter 1 in the textbooks of their own nations.

berntb 13y ago
I wonder from which textbooks you get your "facts"? >> casualty rates in Iraq and Afghanistan (in the 7 figures) I assume that is from the Lancet reports? Highly doubtful, see the reality check from the Iraq Body count [1] (never answered by the Lancet authors afaik). At a minimum, it would require a big conspiracy still controlling information from morgues in the larger hospitals -- since any large hospital would see a significant fraction of the official deaths for the whole Iraq, if the Lancet papers are correct! And a conspiracy to (continue to) hide the makers of prostheses for all the hidden maimed. And so on. Now we can say, because of the later leaks of internal US military documents, that if there were large conspiracies like these to do the needed coverups, it would be known. [2] is quite fun, btw. Etc, etc. (And don't even start explaining the logic of blaming a country U for what people did to civilians, while also trying to kill soldiers from U... But sure, I can agree that the Bush administration was criminally incompetent.) [1] http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/beyond/reality-checks/ http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/beyond/reality-checks/ [2] http://lancetiraq.blogspot.ro/2010/03/dubious-polling.html http://lancetiraq.blogspot.ro/2010/03/dubious-polling.html Edit: I answered a Karma 77 account, sigh. I need to stay out of the religious hate wars people use these accounts for. [It was upvoted later, by himself? :-) ] Edit 2: But to support your point re Japan, US sources doesn't seem to mention much that in Nagasaki they nuked the biggest church in Asia? (The remains of the church is moved closer to the point below where the bomb exploded.)
squirejons 13y ago
more importantly, americans need to realize that the elite have recast american history as it relates to white slavery, black slavery, the civil war, the immigration moratorium of the 1920s, jim crow, hitler, the civil rights movement, the constitution, and the anti-smoking movement. The USA is built on false history as pushed via the educational system. To paraphrase Orwell from his novel 1984, they who control the past control the future.

by capred 13y ago

berntb 13y ago

I wonder from which textbooks you get your "facts"? >> casualty rates in Iraq and Afghanistan (in the 7 figures) I assume that is from the Lancet reports? Highly doubtful, see the reality check from the Iraq Body count [1] (never answered by the Lancet authors afaik). At a minimum, it would require a big conspiracy still controlling information from morgues in the larger hospitals -- since any large hospital would see a significant fraction of the official deaths for the whole Iraq, if the Lancet papers are correct! And a conspiracy to (continue to) hide the makers of prostheses for all the hidden maimed. And so on. Now we can say, because of the later leaks of internal US military documents, that if there were large conspiracies like these to do the needed coverups, it would be known. [2] is quite fun, btw. Etc, etc. (And don't even start explaining the logic of blaming a country U for what people did to civilians, while also trying to kill soldiers from U... But sure, I can agree that the Bush administration was criminally incompetent.) [1] http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/beyond/reality-checks/ http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/beyond/reality-checks/ [2] http://lancetiraq.blogspot.ro/2010/03/dubious-polling.html http://lancetiraq.blogspot.ro/2010/03/dubious-polling.html Edit: I answered a Karma 77 account, sigh. I need to stay out of the religious hate wars people use these accounts for. [It was upvoted later, by himself? :-) ] Edit 2: But to support your point re Japan, US sources doesn't seem to mention much that in Nagasaki they nuked the biggest church in Asia? (The remains of the church is moved closer to the point below where the bomb exploded.)

squirejons 13y ago

more importantly, americans need to realize that the elite have recast american history as it relates to white slavery, black slavery, the civil war, the immigration moratorium of the 1920s, jim crow, hitler, the civil rights movement, the constitution, and the anti-smoking movement. The USA is built on false history as pushed via the educational system. To paraphrase Orwell from his novel 1984, they who control the past control the future.