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This is nothing to do with what he dubs the 'Nanny Tory' initiative. O2's parental controls is an opt-in whitelist. Only sites like Disney.com etc are allowed

This is nothing to do with what he dubs the 'Nanny Tory' initiative. O2's parental controls is an opt-in whitelist. Only sites like Disney.com etc are allowed. It is presumably intended for when children are left alone with devices like tablets. Seems like a useful service to me.

hdevalence 13y ago
I don't really see what's so useful about giving parents tools to block their children from accessing sites like Childline.
- deleted 13y ago
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- PhasmaFelis 13y ago
  Irrelevant. The point at hand is that the article is completely inaccurate. Whether or not parents should restrict their kids' internet use is a different question entirely.
- cases 13y ago
  You should bookmark this so you can come back and laugh at yourself when you have kids of your own.
  - M2Ys4U 13y ago
    You do know what Childline is, right? It's a counselling service run by the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children that deals with child abuse, teenage pregnancy, bullying etc. As a parent, why would you want to block that?! I know I wouldn't.
adamnemecek 13y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children
gts 13y ago
When it comes to parents approving such measures, I feel it is mostly an easy way out for them either due to inefficient parenting or extreme insecurity/protectionism. If the kid is too young and not too knowledgeable about the world then perhaps it would make sense to not be left alone with an -online- tablet. If the kid is older then parents should have by that time invested time and talked with their child and let it know of what dangers may await online. Finally and with regards to the 'indecent'/'porn' aspect of the filter, if a child is traumatized after viewing a pair of boobs or a vagina then there is something wrong with the upbringing the parents gave to it. Having sexual education websites blocked by the filter makes the matter all the more worst.
- DanBC 13y ago
  > if a child is traumatized after viewing a pair of boobs or a vagina It's like people on HN have never seen online pornography, which is usually much more than just an unclothed boob. Let's not pretend online pornography is all like this... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Sandro_Bo... > If the kid is too young and not too knowledgeable about the world then perhaps it would make sense to not be left alone with an -online- tablet. If the kid is older then parents should have by that time invested time and talked with their child and let it know of what dangers may await online. Sure. http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9cltv/has_anybody_seen_this_zippocat_video_if_not_you/ http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9cltv/has_anybody_seen_... Are you honestly that naive?
  - gts 13y ago
    1. Yeah, so were you traumatized when you first saw a porn flick or beat off to it? How old were you? 18? Come on.. 2. There are some really sick people out there I get it. Are you saying that kids should not be told/prepared that such people exist out there and be instructed on how to react when encountering something like this? (e.g. leave the page, call mom etc).
  - Crito 13y ago
    If hardcore pornography and animal abuse are the targets, then how the hell are educational sites getting dragged into the fray?
fit2rule 13y ago
This has everything to do with the Nanny Tory initiative! If you read the article, the point he is making is not that Porn is good, or that O2 are censors, but that: UK Parents are failing at parenthood! And that is exactly the condition that the UK Nanny state is expecting to exploit with such initiatives - and any corporation setting up to serve their government masters is part of the problem. The problem, being, that people do not want to be responsible parents and monitor what their children are doing online.
- DanBC 13y ago
  Or maybe it's that parents tried to monitor what their children were doing online, but failed only because asshole marketers refuse to believe that anyone has a right to refuse their spam and were sending graphic pornography to children.
  - betterunix 13y ago
    This has not been a problem for a very long time now. We have spam filters and ad blockers -- basically, marketers do not get to show you anything if you do not want them to.

hdevalence 13y ago

I don't really see what's so useful about giving parents tools to block their children from accessing sites like Childline.

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PhasmaFelis 13y ago
Irrelevant. The point at hand is that the article is completely inaccurate. Whether or not parents should restrict their kids' internet use is a different question entirely.
cases 13y ago
You should bookmark this so you can come back and laugh at yourself when you have kids of your own.
- M2Ys4U 13y ago
  You do know what Childline is, right? It's a counselling service run by the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children that deals with child abuse, teenage pregnancy, bullying etc. As a parent, why would you want to block that?! I know I wouldn't.

adamnemecek 13y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

gts 13y ago

When it comes to parents approving such measures, I feel it is mostly an easy way out for them either due to inefficient parenting or extreme insecurity/protectionism. If the kid is too young and not too knowledgeable about the world then perhaps it would make sense to not be left alone with an -online- tablet. If the kid is older then parents should have by that time invested time and talked with their child and let it know of what dangers may await online. Finally and with regards to the 'indecent'/'porn' aspect of the filter, if a child is traumatized after viewing a pair of boobs or a vagina then there is something wrong with the upbringing the parents gave to it. Having sexual education websites blocked by the filter makes the matter all the more worst.

DanBC 13y ago
> if a child is traumatized after viewing a pair of boobs or a vagina It's like people on HN have never seen online pornography, which is usually much more than just an unclothed boob. Let's not pretend online pornography is all like this... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Sandro_Bo... > If the kid is too young and not too knowledgeable about the world then perhaps it would make sense to not be left alone with an -online- tablet. If the kid is older then parents should have by that time invested time and talked with their child and let it know of what dangers may await online. Sure. http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9cltv/has_anybody_seen_this_zippocat_video_if_not_you/ http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9cltv/has_anybody_seen_... Are you honestly that naive?
- gts 13y ago
  1. Yeah, so were you traumatized when you first saw a porn flick or beat off to it? How old were you? 18? Come on.. 2. There are some really sick people out there I get it. Are you saying that kids should not be told/prepared that such people exist out there and be instructed on how to react when encountering something like this? (e.g. leave the page, call mom etc).
- Crito 13y ago
  If hardcore pornography and animal abuse are the targets, then how the hell are educational sites getting dragged into the fray?

fit2rule 13y ago

This has everything to do with the Nanny Tory initiative! If you read the article, the point he is making is not that Porn is good, or that O2 are censors, but that: UK Parents are failing at parenthood! And that is exactly the condition that the UK Nanny state is expecting to exploit with such initiatives - and any corporation setting up to serve their government masters is part of the problem. The problem, being, that people do not want to be responsible parents and monitor what their children are doing online.

DanBC 13y ago
Or maybe it's that parents tried to monitor what their children were doing online, but failed only because asshole marketers refuse to believe that anyone has a right to refuse their spam and were sending graphic pornography to children.
- betterunix 13y ago
  This has not been a problem for a very long time now. We have spam filters and ad blockers -- basically, marketers do not get to show you anything if you do not want them to.