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Thanks Micah. The free version was dropped very quickly...although it was exciting to be in the top 25 free downloads for those few days. It was an experiment t

by rcmorin 17y ago

Thanks Micah. The free version was dropped very quickly...although it was exciting to be in the top 25 free downloads for those few days. It was an experiment to get some sort of quick market validation (for ourselves and potential investors) and it worked in the short-term. The price at cost put the breaks on downloads fairly quickly and we are back keeping things manageble. Also, we ran into the surprise of discovering our potential userbase: the 12-18 crowd stormed in like bulls in a china shop posting sexually explicit pictures, profanity, etc. which created a whole new slew of headaches. It's a valuable/lucrative audience, but you need a fair amount of policework to prevent things from getting out of control...

arohner 17y ago
> It was an experiment to get some sort of quick market validation Market validation is once you have the data to say "customers in demographic X will pay Y dollars for this app, I will make a margin of Z percent, and there Q customers willing to pay." Unless you can survive on your free version (which it sounds like you can't), you haven't validated the market yet. Find the price point where you are profitable (and people will pay!)
SwellJoe 17y ago
the 12-18 crowd stormed in like bulls in a china shop posting sexually explicit pictures, profanity, etc. which created a whole new slew of headaches. It's a valuable/lucrative audience, but you need a fair amount of policework to prevent things from getting out of control... One of the fellows at SmugMug has blogged about the "free" question, and pointed out this particular problem with "free". When it's free, you capture a part of the market that most wants anonymity and no recourse for their bad, possibly illegal, behavior. 12-18 year olds exchanging sexually explicit pictures via your service is a problem of epic proportions. Stopping it could very easily become your full-time job (and the full-time job of a dozen more people). I know you've said you've already halted free distribution. I just wanted to point out that this one is a well-known problem with free, and if you don't have good, automated, methods for dealing with it, it can be a huge resource drain.
rcmorin 17y ago
Thanks, Joe. Again, the behavior of this age group is very concerning to me. I'm 26 and don't remember these problems with AIM when that was in its heyday. Or maybe I'm just clueless. Even with services like Loopt, I've heard complaints that these projects attract this type of lewd behavior.

by rcmorin 17y ago

arohner 17y ago

> It was an experiment to get some sort of quick market validation Market validation is once you have the data to say "customers in demographic X will pay Y dollars for this app, I will make a margin of Z percent, and there Q customers willing to pay." Unless you can survive on your free version (which it sounds like you can't), you haven't validated the market yet. Find the price point where you are profitable (and people will pay!)

SwellJoe 17y ago

the 12-18 crowd stormed in like bulls in a china shop posting sexually explicit pictures, profanity, etc. which created a whole new slew of headaches. It's a valuable/lucrative audience, but you need a fair amount of policework to prevent things from getting out of control... One of the fellows at SmugMug has blogged about the "free" question, and pointed out this particular problem with "free". When it's free, you capture a part of the market that most wants anonymity and no recourse for their bad, possibly illegal, behavior. 12-18 year olds exchanging sexually explicit pictures via your service is a problem of epic proportions. Stopping it could very easily become your full-time job (and the full-time job of a dozen more people). I know you've said you've already halted free distribution. I just wanted to point out that this one is a well-known problem with free, and if you don't have good, automated, methods for dealing with it, it can be a huge resource drain.

rcmorin 17y ago

Thanks, Joe. Again, the behavior of this age group is very concerning to me. I'm 26 and don't remember these problems with AIM when that was in its heyday. Or maybe I'm just clueless. Even with services like Loopt, I've heard complaints that these projects attract this type of lewd behavior.