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That's incorrect. Just because the audience is mostly white men does not mean that others aren't welcome or that they feel unwelcome. It just means that more wh
by nhangen 13y ago
That's incorrect. Just because the audience is mostly white men does not mean that others aren't welcome or that they feel unwelcome. It just means that more white guys showed up that non-white guys.
Reply to child:
Now you're essentially calling white males racist, but the comments in this thread have nothing to do with how white men feel about other genders and races.
I have never been to an event wherein I've seen anything but positive vibes towards all people attending.
- nilved 13y agoIf you've read this thread top to bottom, you can surely see how nonwhite nonmen don't exactly feel welcome.
- kirillzubovsky 13y agoCry me a river. It's nobody job to hold your hand and to make you feel welcome. If the default is "white guys hating on everyone else", that would indeed be bad for the environment. But, if the default is "I am here to code, and I really couldn't care why you're here," then it's nobody job but your own to make the environment into what you want it to be. Response to child: No, by bringing more black girlfriends to a hackathon they would make an environment friendly. By creating a segregated event, they are pretty much saying they can't deal with mixed events, and have to kick everyone else out in order to create an enjoyable environment.
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- gress 13y ago> it's nobody's job but your own to make the environment into what you want it to be. Isn't that what they're doing by creating an environment for black girls?
- countrybama24 13y agoBut it offends white people by bringing up race. They really would just rather not talk about it.
- EliRivers 13y agoActually, a lot of them do feel unwelcome.
- detcader 13y ago"I have never been to an event wherein I've seen anything but positive vibes towards all people attending." You're a man, aren't you
- nhangen 13y agoYes, and a white one at that, but I sit next to and chat with men and women of all races, and I watch the same occur in chairs/tables next to me. I've never seen anything that indicates white men are making others feel unwelcome. Perception does not indicate reality. If you feel unwelcome and don't participate because of that, there's not much I can do to help you.
- detcader 13y agoI'm a white male too and yes, you're right, "perception does not indicate reality."
- nhangen 13y agoCare to offer a counter example that you've personally witnessed?
- detcader 13y agoyou're not seeing the point here...
- nhangen 13y agoI am. You're saying that because we're white, we can't see it. I could make the same argument about God or elves or unicorns. The fact is that just because someone feels unwelcome does not mean they are unwelcome. But that's neither a problem with the event nor the people in it.
- nilved 13y ago