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Literally every other coding event is "white men code," so don't get so flustered when there's one single one that's not for you. I expect better from Hacker N
by nilved 13y ago
Literally every other coding event is "white men code," so don't get so flustered when there's one single one that's not for you.
I expect better from Hacker News.
- nawitus 13y agoAn event which is free for all is not a white men code event, even if most of the participans were white men.
- eropple 13y agoYou are demonstrating unfamiliarity with the difference between de jure and de facto. When people of other demographics feel uncomfortable being there because the audience is predominantly white and predominantly male, it is effectively exclusionary even if there isn't a single word to the contrary. That doesn't make it your fault. It does mean it's something you have to make a real effort to understand and accept in light of the privilege you have.
- nawitus 13y ago>When people of other demographics feel uncomfortable being there because the audience is predominantly white and predominantly male, it is effectively exclusionary even if there isn't a single word to the contrary. Do black people feel uncomfortable being with white people? That sounds racist and segregatory. We shouldn't turn all events into equal distributions, we should instead make people feel comfortable with being with all kinds of other people.
- eropple 13y agoMany black people feel uncomfortable in environments dominated by white people because of the cultural and social domination by white people, both historically and in the current day. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to understand.
- gress 13y agoAn event at which the participants are mostly white men will cater to the wishes of white men.
- nhangen 13y agoThat's incorrect. Just because the audience is mostly white men does not mean that others aren't welcome or that they feel unwelcome. It just means that more white guys showed up that non-white guys. Reply to child: Now you're essentially calling white males racist, but the comments in this thread have nothing to do with how white men feel about other genders and races. I have never been to an event wherein I've seen anything but positive vibes towards all people attending.
- nilved 13y agoIf you've read this thread top to bottom, you can surely see how nonwhite nonmen don't exactly feel welcome.
- kirillzubovsky 13y agoCry me a river. It's nobody job to hold your hand and to make you feel welcome. If the default is "white guys hating on everyone else", that would indeed be bad for the environment. But, if the default is "I am here to code, and I really couldn't care why you're here," then it's nobody job but your own to make the environment into what you want it to be. Response to child: No, by bringing more black girlfriends to a hackathon they would make an environment friendly. By creating a segregated event, they are pretty much saying they can't deal with mixed events, and have to kick everyone else out in order to create an enjoyable environment.
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- gress 13y ago> it's nobody's job but your own to make the environment into what you want it to be. Isn't that what they're doing by creating an environment for black girls?
- countrybama24 13y agoBut it offends white people by bringing up race. They really would just rather not talk about it.
- kirillzubovsky 13y agoThat is a bloody lie! Every other even is perhaps "men code" because indeed there are not many women who come out, but still, some do. I don't know what events you go to, but I always see a good mix of guys of all races and colors.
- countrybama24 13y agoWell looking at the industry overall, I'd be surprised if the conferences met national averages in terms of overall diversity. But why do that when we have a "good mix" according to the dominant group.