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Only a handful of comments and this is already looking like your typical reddit thread regarding anything geared towards and underrepresented minority: "what ab
by hackinthebochs 13y ago
Only a handful of comments and this is already looking like your typical reddit thread regarding anything geared towards and underrepresented minority: "what about us white men???".
I expect better from you guys. Perhaps that's my mistake.
- nilved 13y agoI've used more downvotes in this thread that I have in the previous 3 years of being on Hacker News.
- yetanotherphd 13y agoGood for both of you. Logical argument is only for people who have already proven that they subscribe to the progressive agenda. Downvotes and shaming are all these privileged white boys deserve.
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- tptacek 13y agoOh look, an appeal to identity politics from the person whose one contribution to the site is "The Fundamental Theorem of Welfare Politics" on Wikipedia.
- yetanotherphd 13y agoI have zero idea what your post means, and it was "Fundamental Theorems of Welfare Economics".
- olduser55 13y agoWhat does number of submissions have to do with anything. You've truly turned into a elitist fuckwit. All them internet points must have gone to your head.
- countrybama24 13y agoThe overall number of posts creates the basis for a ratio that demonstrates interests amongst divergent topics. In this case, yours have been placed under suspicion for defending a libertarian viewpoint and separately, one that maintains white privilege. I believe the frequent intersection between these views was the basis for his comment. I'm sure you disagree though.
- yetanotherphd 13y ago>The overall number of posts creates the basis for a ratio that demonstrates interests amongst divergent topics. I can't parse this sentence. >In this case, yours have been placed under suspicion for defending a libertarian viewpoint and separately, one that maintains white privilege. I believe the frequent intersection between these views was the basis for his comment. I'm sure you disagree though. The post you are replying to wasn't me. Also, I have never defended a libertarian viewpoint, and my one submission was also not libertarian (perhaps you should read it to confirm). Anyway I find this character attack tiresome, and against the spirit of public debate. If I had said something in one post that clearly contradicted something I said in another, I would be happy to explain it. But it seems like the poster was just having a go at me for posting right wing stuff. I am a right winger. Other posters will just have to deal with it. EDIT: edited to remove some assumptions about your views.
- zalzane 13y ago>Downvotes and shaming are all these privileged white boys deserve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
- nawitus 13y agoHow about you refute the arguments instead of mocking them like a sixth grader?
- hackinthebochs 13y agoWhat argument? I haven't seen anything presented in a logical way that warranted a reasoned response (although others have attempted to elucidate)
- nawitus 13y agoI have seen many.
- smokeyj 13y agoWhat is it about racial descrimination that you find virtuous?
- hackinthebochs 13y agoGood job asking a loaded question in what was I guess your attempt at appearing rational. (In case you don't see it, its analogous to a reporter asking someone: "why did you murder and rape that girl behind the shed") Racial discrimination isn't inherently bad. Doctors "racially discriminate" regarding certain treatments such as heart disease, hypertension, etc because of their disparate prevalence among minorities. So whether discrimination is bad depends on the context and whats being accomplished. "Discriminating" against whites and men (fucking laughable) in an attempt to create a safe and welcoming environment for a severely underrepresented group is a positive use of discrimination.
- smokeyj 13y agoA loaded question is when you try to misrepresent someone's point of view. Am I missing something, or did you not agree with the basic premise (Racial discrimination isn't inherently bad)? I would argue your doctor analogy is flawed in that doctors don't racially discriminate, but biologically discriminate. I guess I can see why you would think that. > So whether discrimination is bad depends on the context and whats being accomplished. I agree, but I still haven't seen a good argument for racial discrimination. Can you cite examples of where racism was good for society? I'm willing to keep an open mind about it, but I think in the long run, segregating ourselves is not the right way forward. Maybe this is too disney, but I'd like to live in a world where we can disregard race and reach out to whoever needs it.
- knackernews 13y agoI'm among those who think this organization isn't doing it right, but I'm a 'colored' developer. Does that make my opinion any more valid than the white men's ? To me this is as beneficial as a 'white girls rap' bootcamp, but hey, whatever helps.
- judk 13y ago"Colored Coder" has more of a ring to it... Along with "Diaspora Developer" which hits class+immigration issues from a different angle.
- hackinthebochs 13y agoIts one thing to think that "they're not doing it right", its another thing to think it is actively racist. One is an opinion, the other is idiocy.
- gnarbarian 13y agoI would prefer to see these types of programming camps open to anyone interested. What got you into coding by the way?
- gdilla 13y agoindeed. the HN privileged class never changes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M
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- adamors 13y agoIf you expect better, you really haven't been on this site enough. Every post/article/etc that even tangentially touches on feminism/gender issues turns into a big old MRA circlejerk.
- makomk 13y agoPerhaps your mistake is thinking about this as something specific to Reddit in the first place. I know there are some fairly prominent groups with axes to grind who act as though racism, sexism and the patriarchy sprung into existence fully formed with the creation of Reddit, but it's always been a reflection of wider society, nothing more.
- kn0thing 13y agoFWIW, "A typical reddit thread" is as ridiculous as a "typical twitter exchange" -- there over 90M people using the platform every month.