>- You can't look at raw price point as evidence for iPhone's ability to resist depreciation because their starting value is so much higher than other smartphon

>- You can't look at raw price point as evidence for iPhone's ability to resist depreciation because their starting value is so much higher than other smartphones -- though I do think Apple hardware ages better than other hardware. To answer his question of What other companies make cell phones that retain any value at all after two years?: Samsung, Google/Motorola. Baring some weirdly cheap outliers the S4 comes in at £500 payg in the uk but that is via the networks and I don't know if they'll bugger about with it before it gets to you. You save fifty quid versus he 5S but you lose out in performance and it's made of plastic.