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That's the problem. Apple's typography is well ahead of anything in the Linux world, and even Linux is still ahead of what Windows has. The "Retina" screens ma

That's the problem. Apple's typography is well ahead of anything in the Linux world, and even Linux is still ahead of what Windows has. The "Retina" screens make this even harder to match.

busterarm 13y ago
For sure, but I'm not such a typography nerd that what's on Linux is unacceptable to me. Ultimately I'm going to get my work done however is most efficient; that just tends to be Linux. My Mac (which I'm using now) is great for web browsing and reading articles. I'd sooner use my Kindle for that than my Linux laptop though and often I do. Once Apple makes a retina iPad around 10 inches and lets me use my own USB keyboard, I'll never use anything else. If that iPad Pro rumor pans out, it'd better have USB.
- astrodust 13y ago
  I've been impressed that typography on Linux isn't as bad as Windows, but it's still got a long way to go to measure up to Apple. It's not just clarity and accuracy of the typefaces themselves, but subtle details like how the ligatures (things like how "fi" and "ff" are rendered) are properly applied. Typography is one of those things that, once you've seen it, you can't un-see it. You can only try to not care. Apple's not interested in adding USB to the iPad since Bluetooth already does anything USB can do and more, at least from the perspective of a consumer. If you want a portable USB-capable tablet, maybe you want a Surface Pro. That thing would be pretty awesome if someone can Linux it. In any case, you can already use pretty much any Bluetooth keyboard you want, and there are a large number of third party ones to pick from.
  - busterarm 13y ago
    Indeed. See my comment here though. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6973619 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6973619 Much like typography can't be unseen, once you use good keyboards, anything but is maddening. The same goes for good UI.
skinnycow 13y ago
Aside from the fact that there are dozen(s) of ultrabooks with equally high res screens? I love hearing people dismiss Linux font rendering out of hand given that most distros ship with different patches and thus such a statement is silly. And the fact that when I do side by side (with no window UX to bias), Mac users choose my font rendering as preferred everytime. (And I've done it on HN previously too, with the exact same results, including someone going on a rant before realizing he was praising the Linux rendering)

That's the problem. Apple's typography is well ahead of anything in the Linux world, and even Linux is still ahead of what Windows has. The "Retina" screens make this even harder to match.

busterarm 13y ago

For sure, but I'm not such a typography nerd that what's on Linux is unacceptable to me. Ultimately I'm going to get my work done however is most efficient; that just tends to be Linux. My Mac (which I'm using now) is great for web browsing and reading articles. I'd sooner use my Kindle for that than my Linux laptop though and often I do. Once Apple makes a retina iPad around 10 inches and lets me use my own USB keyboard, I'll never use anything else. If that iPad Pro rumor pans out, it'd better have USB.

astrodust 13y ago
I've been impressed that typography on Linux isn't as bad as Windows, but it's still got a long way to go to measure up to Apple. It's not just clarity and accuracy of the typefaces themselves, but subtle details like how the ligatures (things like how "fi" and "ff" are rendered) are properly applied. Typography is one of those things that, once you've seen it, you can't un-see it. You can only try to not care. Apple's not interested in adding USB to the iPad since Bluetooth already does anything USB can do and more, at least from the perspective of a consumer. If you want a portable USB-capable tablet, maybe you want a Surface Pro. That thing would be pretty awesome if someone can Linux it. In any case, you can already use pretty much any Bluetooth keyboard you want, and there are a large number of third party ones to pick from.
- busterarm 13y ago
  Indeed. See my comment here though. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6973619 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6973619 Much like typography can't be unseen, once you use good keyboards, anything but is maddening. The same goes for good UI.

skinnycow 13y ago

Aside from the fact that there are dozen(s) of ultrabooks with equally high res screens? I love hearing people dismiss Linux font rendering out of hand given that most distros ship with different patches and thus such a statement is silly. And the fact that when I do side by side (with no window UX to bias), Mac users choose my font rendering as preferred everytime. (And I've done it on HN previously too, with the exact same results, including someone going on a rant before realizing he was praising the Linux rendering)