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Windows is just as inconsistent with closing, with the added bonus of also being inconsistent with minimizing behaviour too. How do you get an app to go to the

Windows is just as inconsistent with closing, with the added bonus of also being inconsistent with minimizing behaviour too. How do you get an app to go to the systray? Close it? Minimise it? Who knows. While I do agree Windows has a better keyboard story, most of what you describe are just differences, not worse.

freehunter 13y ago
Excel 2003 was the worst offender of inconsistent closing/minimizing behavior for me. If you had multiple workbooks open, you couldn't have one on each screen because they're tied to the main Excel window. If you tried to close a workbook using the normal X button like you were closing a single Word document, it would close every open Excel book. You had to use a smaller X below the main X to close a single book. I'm glad they finally changed that stupid behavior.
falcolas 13y ago
Closing in windows is always Alt+F4 (or with most programs, close the last open window for that program). Minimizing is easy after Windows 7 - Windows + Down (Using the windows plus the arrow keys are stupidly useful now, I would love for Mac to have something equivalent. I personally find Command+C to be very uncomfortable when compared to Ctrl + C - having to curl my thumb under my hand to hit Command is annoying compared to hitting Ctrl with my pinkie. Command + Q also drives me nuts, because it's so easy to hit accidentally when going for the W or tab keys.
SEMW 13y ago
Alt-space gives the window menu. Close: alt-space, c Minimise: alt-space, n Maximise: alt-space, x etc. Works in every version of windows since 95ish, as well as every popular Linux DE I've ever tried (inc. gnome, xfce, kde, cinnamon).
com2kid 13y ago
> How do you get an app to go to the systray? Close it? Minimise it? Who knows. This is a per app thing. Many people (myself included!) want some apps down in the system tray rather than in the task bar. A common example is IM and Email apps. This is more application developers responding to user demands than anything else. 99% of apps that do this have a toggle switch somewhere to turn this behavior off.

freehunter 13y ago

Excel 2003 was the worst offender of inconsistent closing/minimizing behavior for me. If you had multiple workbooks open, you couldn't have one on each screen because they're tied to the main Excel window. If you tried to close a workbook using the normal X button like you were closing a single Word document, it would close every open Excel book. You had to use a smaller X below the main X to close a single book. I'm glad they finally changed that stupid behavior.

falcolas 13y ago

Closing in windows is always Alt+F4 (or with most programs, close the last open window for that program). Minimizing is easy after Windows 7 - Windows + Down (Using the windows plus the arrow keys are stupidly useful now, I would love for Mac to have something equivalent. I personally find Command+C to be very uncomfortable when compared to Ctrl + C - having to curl my thumb under my hand to hit Command is annoying compared to hitting Ctrl with my pinkie. Command + Q also drives me nuts, because it's so easy to hit accidentally when going for the W or tab keys.

SEMW 13y ago

Alt-space gives the window menu. Close: alt-space, c Minimise: alt-space, n Maximise: alt-space, x etc. Works in every version of windows since 95ish, as well as every popular Linux DE I've ever tried (inc. gnome, xfce, kde, cinnamon).

com2kid 13y ago

> How do you get an app to go to the systray? Close it? Minimise it? Who knows. This is a per app thing. Many people (myself included!) want some apps down in the system tray rather than in the task bar. A common example is IM and Email apps. This is more application developers responding to user demands than anything else. 99% of apps that do this have a toggle switch somewhere to turn this behavior off.