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Price from Dell USA: $1299. Price from Dell UK: £1270. sigh

by gjm11 13y ago

hengheng 13y ago
1474€ for Germany (VAT included here). That's not actually expensive, it's just more than I paid for my Korean 1440p displays.
- skrause 13y ago
  And it's actually sold for around 1100 €: http://geizhals.de/dell-ultrasharp-up2414q-a1039346.html http://geizhals.de/dell-ultrasharp-up2414q-a1039346.html
z92 13y ago
Taxes and regulations.
- Anderkent 13y ago
  That cause a 60% price increase? That's hard to believe. (1 gbp = 1.64 usd according to google)
  - mbesto 13y ago
    You're forgetting VAT (20% in GB) is included in the price in GB/EU.
    - Anderkent 13y ago
      I didn't - so I wouldn't be surprised by a 20-30% difference. This is double that.
      - icelancer 13y ago
        Import taxes are huge; protectionism at its finest.
        snogglethorpe 13y ago
        Also simply that the UK is a smaller market with less competition, and UK consumers are largely used to being charged at these levels (I lived in the UK in the early '90s, and the "$ = £ for imported tech goods" equation was exactly the same then). Importers are going to charge as much as they can until people stop buying, and apparently, people aren't. I think this is particularly the case for specialized niche equipment, as it tends to be bought only by those who really need/want it, so demand tends to be relatively price-inelastic...
orbitur 13y ago
1270 / 1.2 = 1058 (removing VAT) 1058 British pounds = ~1700 USD Doesn't seem that bad, or any worse than usual.
natch 13y ago
...and you get free health care. I wouldn't complain.
- nolok 13y ago
  He doesn't get free healthcare, he gets socialized healthcare that he pays for with taxes. It's not a gift out of magic, it's a political and economical choice.
  - ollysb 13y ago
    That depends on whether or not he's paying taxes ;)
    - thomasfedb 13y ago
      If he's not paying the tax then his parents either are or did. Same here in Australia, it's just a part of the basic standard we are prepared to be taxed for.
  - Brakenshire 13y ago
    The US and the UK do actually spend the same percentage of GDP in government taxation on healthcare. It's just that for the same amount of money Americans get treatment for the poor and the elderly, whereas the British get universal coverage. So, relative to the US, the UK coverage of the wider population is actually free. There is no greater sacrifice, or higher level of taxation to pay for the extra coverage. References are quite easy to find, but here's one, from the Telegraph, quoting data from the OECD: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100006775/us-government-spends-more-on-health-than-the-nhs/ http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100006775/...
- gjm11 13y ago
  I love the free healthcare, which is paid for by our higher taxes, which I am very happy to pay because of the benefits I (and, more importantly, other people worse off than me) get as a result. Higher taxes in the UK do not, however, explain why the same product is 1.6x more expensive here. Part of the different will be accounted for by VAT (20%) and import duty (14% for this product, I think), but nowhere near all. Incidentally, the US has import duty too. (But I think it's generally lower than for the UK.)

Price from Dell USA: $1299. Price from Dell UK: £1270. sigh

by gjm11 13y ago

Price from Dell USA: $1299. Price from Dell UK: £1270. sigh

1474€ for Germany (VAT included here). That's not actually expensive, it's just more than I paid for my Korean 1440p displays.

skrause 13y ago
And it's actually sold for around 1100 €: http://geizhals.de/dell-ultrasharp-up2414q-a1039346.html http://geizhals.de/dell-ultrasharp-up2414q-a1039346.html

z92 13y ago

Taxes and regulations.

Anderkent 13y ago
That cause a 60% price increase? That's hard to believe. (1 gbp = 1.64 usd according to google)
- mbesto 13y ago
  You're forgetting VAT (20% in GB) is included in the price in GB/EU.
  - Anderkent 13y ago
    I didn't - so I wouldn't be surprised by a 20-30% difference. This is double that.
    - icelancer 13y ago
      Import taxes are huge; protectionism at its finest.
      - snogglethorpe 13y ago
        Also simply that the UK is a smaller market with less competition, and UK consumers are largely used to being charged at these levels (I lived in the UK in the early '90s, and the "$ = £ for imported tech goods" equation was exactly the same then). Importers are going to charge as much as they can until people stop buying, and apparently, people aren't. I think this is particularly the case for specialized niche equipment, as it tends to be bought only by those who really need/want it, so demand tends to be relatively price-inelastic...

orbitur 13y ago

1270 / 1.2 = 1058 (removing VAT) 1058 British pounds = ~1700 USD Doesn't seem that bad, or any worse than usual.

natch 13y ago

...and you get free health care. I wouldn't complain.

nolok 13y ago
He doesn't get free healthcare, he gets socialized healthcare that he pays for with taxes. It's not a gift out of magic, it's a political and economical choice.
- ollysb 13y ago
  That depends on whether or not he's paying taxes ;)
  - thomasfedb 13y ago
    If he's not paying the tax then his parents either are or did. Same here in Australia, it's just a part of the basic standard we are prepared to be taxed for.
- Brakenshire 13y ago
  The US and the UK do actually spend the same percentage of GDP in government taxation on healthcare. It's just that for the same amount of money Americans get treatment for the poor and the elderly, whereas the British get universal coverage. So, relative to the US, the UK coverage of the wider population is actually free. There is no greater sacrifice, or higher level of taxation to pay for the extra coverage. References are quite easy to find, but here's one, from the Telegraph, quoting data from the OECD: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100006775/us-government-spends-more-on-health-than-the-nhs/ http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100006775/...
gjm11 13y ago
I love the free healthcare, which is paid for by our higher taxes, which I am very happy to pay because of the benefits I (and, more importantly, other people worse off than me) get as a result. Higher taxes in the UK do not, however, explain why the same product is 1.6x more expensive here. Part of the different will be accounted for by VAT (20%) and import duty (14% for this product, I think), but nowhere near all. Incidentally, the US has import duty too. (But I think it's generally lower than for the UK.)