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Is there any good, recent ( but past the beta stage), fast, non bloated java framework anyone here could recommend ? I've done a medium sized spring project la

by bsaul 13y ago

Is there any good, recent ( but past the beta stage), fast, non bloated java framework anyone here could recommend ? I've done a medium sized spring project last year, and found the language quite good, but the framework itself and the general ecosystem really too cumbersome.

zeroDivisible 13y ago
As most of my daily tasks are being done in J2EE environment, I have goosebumps each time I hear "java" & "framework" used in one sentence. And that's not excitement, that's fear. The only framework which I can recommend, is Dropwizard (http://dropwizard.codahale.com/ http://dropwizard.codahale.com/), which tries not to be a framework, just a glue between some really nice libraries and tools.
- bsaul 13y ago
  Really helpful comment, thanks. I probably overestimated the importance of a "framework" in the java world, where everything is standardized, and every standard is implemented through standalone libraries (which is probably another reason spring became so famous when i come to think of it, with its original glue-like approach). I'll start with "raw" java next time i'll want to try playing with rest services.
danieldk 13y ago
Is there any good, recent ( but past the beta stage), fast, non bloated java framework anyone here could recommend ? For? If you are developing REST applications, the JAX-RS standard is great, lightweight, and mature. I have used both Jersey and RestEasy without any problems.
lnanek2 13y ago
Take a look at http://vertx.io/ http://vertx.io/ . It's basically the Java community's answer to modern, fast, straight forward technologies like NodeJS. Just by the performance improvements alone I've been hearing people tout you can often justify it in big business jobs.
ivan_gammel 13y ago
I can recommend Thymeleaf, which is a nice replacement to JSP, FreeMarker and Velocity for rendering web page and e-mail templates.
Edmond 13y ago
I am the founder of Crudzilla Software (check my profile for link). Our product is a browser based web development tool that comes with its own middleware/framework with a UI built just for it. I think this approach while not as generic is superior because you get the benefit of real tooling not just a generic framework that you need to manually glue together. Spring like many frameworks are designed to be generic and pluggable into other tools/IDEs, unfortunately once they become complex their benefit is greatly reduced for most projects. Support us so we can continue to improve on the product, visual UI building and integration is on the horizon :)
lmm 13y ago
Picocontainer is good if you just want something that will do DI and nothing else, and stay out of your way apart from that.
bobbyi_settv 13y ago
How about Google Guice? I can't recommend it because I personally haven't used it, but I was under the impression that it is supposed to be the answer to this. If it isn't what you're looking for, I'd be curious to hear which of these qualifications it fails at.
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by bsaul 13y ago

zeroDivisible 13y ago

As most of my daily tasks are being done in J2EE environment, I have goosebumps each time I hear "java" & "framework" used in one sentence. And that's not excitement, that's fear. The only framework which I can recommend, is Dropwizard (http://dropwizard.codahale.com/ http://dropwizard.codahale.com/), which tries not to be a framework, just a glue between some really nice libraries and tools.

bsaul 13y ago
Really helpful comment, thanks. I probably overestimated the importance of a "framework" in the java world, where everything is standardized, and every standard is implemented through standalone libraries (which is probably another reason spring became so famous when i come to think of it, with its original glue-like approach). I'll start with "raw" java next time i'll want to try playing with rest services.

danieldk 13y ago

Is there any good, recent ( but past the beta stage), fast, non bloated java framework anyone here could recommend ? For? If you are developing REST applications, the JAX-RS standard is great, lightweight, and mature. I have used both Jersey and RestEasy without any problems.

lnanek2 13y ago

Take a look at http://vertx.io/ http://vertx.io/ . It's basically the Java community's answer to modern, fast, straight forward technologies like NodeJS. Just by the performance improvements alone I've been hearing people tout you can often justify it in big business jobs.

ivan_gammel 13y ago

I can recommend Thymeleaf, which is a nice replacement to JSP, FreeMarker and Velocity for rendering web page and e-mail templates.

Edmond 13y ago

I am the founder of Crudzilla Software (check my profile for link). Our product is a browser based web development tool that comes with its own middleware/framework with a UI built just for it. I think this approach while not as generic is superior because you get the benefit of real tooling not just a generic framework that you need to manually glue together. Spring like many frameworks are designed to be generic and pluggable into other tools/IDEs, unfortunately once they become complex their benefit is greatly reduced for most projects. Support us so we can continue to improve on the product, visual UI building and integration is on the horizon :)

lmm 13y ago

Picocontainer is good if you just want something that will do DI and nothing else, and stay out of your way apart from that.

bobbyi_settv 13y ago

How about Google Guice? I can't recommend it because I personally haven't used it, but I was under the impression that it is supposed to be the answer to this. If it isn't what you're looking for, I'd be curious to hear which of these qualifications it fails at.

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