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They 'pooled together' to buy third party patents with which to try and attack a competitor's product as they can't compete against it on the virtue of their ow

They 'pooled together' to buy third party patents with which to try and attack a competitor's product as they can't compete against it on the virtue of their own products in the open market place. Technically you may be correct but I really think the 'troll' moniker is apt in this case.

curiousDog 13y ago
Why think of it that way? Perhaps they bought those patents for use in their own devices. Perhaps they've been paying Nortel to use them up until they bought them out.
- salient 13y ago
  If you've been following the situation you'd know that isn't true. Rockstar was built for the whole purpose of suing Google. And use them "for themselves"? Rockstar is a little more than a shell company.
clarky07 13y ago
Right. Apple can't compete at all with android devices. Those same android devices that were originally copies of iPhones. Remember that android was just a better blackberry before iPhone came along.
- coolnow 13y ago
  And remember where Apple got its notification centre from. And remember how iOS was lacking copy and paste for years. And remember how it only got "multitasking" a few years after Android did. We could be here forever. Also, didn't a Google employee basically debunk that "Google had to start from scratch after iPhone was revealed" claim?
  - _Simon 13y ago
    You have a warped sense of time. Multitasking is essentially fast app switching on the devices. Copy and paste was a nothing feature. I'm surprised that you left out MMS too since your going down the trite meme route. Here's some back to Android, although its blatantly been influenced by the direction Apple took, it took Google until Jellybean 4.2 to catch up with the quality of implementation of iOS. They also continue to have a problem with fragmentation that is getting worse by the year and Google fucked consumers by handing control back to carriers in a bit to gain market share. Like you said, this could go on and on. So here's an idea; instead of trotting out tired and trite memes because someone has had the temerity to call out your favourite team, don't. Also, link to the original article; http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/the-day-google-had-to-start-over-on-android/282479/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/the-da... If Android was, as you seem to think, not a copy of the original iPhone OS, why did it take a further 18 months to release anything after the initial iPhone unveiling?
    - the_hangman 13y ago
      > Multitasking is essentially fast app switching on the devices > Copy and paste was a nothing feature > ... although its blatantly been influenced by the direction Apple took, it took Google until Jellybean 4.2 to catch up with the quality of implementation of iOS I don't mean to come off like an ass (but don't really give a shit if I do), but you're just positing your own opinions in the place of the previous poster's opinions, then acting like you've proved some great point. How exactly are you advancing this discussion? Your post is just as useless as the one you're replying to. I'm as big of an Apple fanboy as there is, but you're making us look bad. Multitasking and copy and paste may just be "trite memes" to gods like you, but mere mortals like me use both of those on a daily basis. This is equally applicable to your post: > ... instead of trotting out tired and trite memes because someone has had the temerity to call out your favourite team, don't. EDIT: And your question, > If Android was, as you seem to think, not a copy of the original iPhone OS, why did it take a further 18 months to release anything after the initial iPhone unveiling? is blatantly phrased as a leading question. You're really trying to make it seem as though the only reason to not release anything for 18 months after the iphone announcement was to copy the iphone. Give the the iphone the credit it is due; it revolutionized mobile phones. How are you so certain that the question in google wasn't "Why rush to compete with a product that just revolutionized the industry when yours clearly pales in comparison?"
  - berntb 13y ago
    Copy/paste was introduced to the market first by Apple. For the Lisa. Not forever, it seems...
- radicalbyte 13y ago
  > Those same android devices that were > originally copies of iPhones. By the same logic, the iPhone was just a "copy" of the Windows ME phones (iPaq etc). But with finger instead of a stylus. Apple's revolution was in their magnificent marketing; and to a secondary degree the way they simplified the complex "enterprise" phones so that anyone could use them, then exploited that to build the App Store. In the short term they were less functional, but in the long term they "offered" exponentially more features (via 3rd parties in the marketplace).

curiousDog 13y ago

Why think of it that way? Perhaps they bought those patents for use in their own devices. Perhaps they've been paying Nortel to use them up until they bought them out.

salient 13y ago
If you've been following the situation you'd know that isn't true. Rockstar was built for the whole purpose of suing Google. And use them "for themselves"? Rockstar is a little more than a shell company.

clarky07 13y ago

Right. Apple can't compete at all with android devices. Those same android devices that were originally copies of iPhones. Remember that android was just a better blackberry before iPhone came along.

coolnow 13y ago
And remember where Apple got its notification centre from. And remember how iOS was lacking copy and paste for years. And remember how it only got "multitasking" a few years after Android did. We could be here forever. Also, didn't a Google employee basically debunk that "Google had to start from scratch after iPhone was revealed" claim?
- _Simon 13y ago
  You have a warped sense of time. Multitasking is essentially fast app switching on the devices. Copy and paste was a nothing feature. I'm surprised that you left out MMS too since your going down the trite meme route. Here's some back to Android, although its blatantly been influenced by the direction Apple took, it took Google until Jellybean 4.2 to catch up with the quality of implementation of iOS. They also continue to have a problem with fragmentation that is getting worse by the year and Google fucked consumers by handing control back to carriers in a bit to gain market share. Like you said, this could go on and on. So here's an idea; instead of trotting out tired and trite memes because someone has had the temerity to call out your favourite team, don't. Also, link to the original article; http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/the-day-google-had-to-start-over-on-android/282479/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/the-da... If Android was, as you seem to think, not a copy of the original iPhone OS, why did it take a further 18 months to release anything after the initial iPhone unveiling?
  - the_hangman 13y ago
    > Multitasking is essentially fast app switching on the devices > Copy and paste was a nothing feature > ... although its blatantly been influenced by the direction Apple took, it took Google until Jellybean 4.2 to catch up with the quality of implementation of iOS I don't mean to come off like an ass (but don't really give a shit if I do), but you're just positing your own opinions in the place of the previous poster's opinions, then acting like you've proved some great point. How exactly are you advancing this discussion? Your post is just as useless as the one you're replying to. I'm as big of an Apple fanboy as there is, but you're making us look bad. Multitasking and copy and paste may just be "trite memes" to gods like you, but mere mortals like me use both of those on a daily basis. This is equally applicable to your post: > ... instead of trotting out tired and trite memes because someone has had the temerity to call out your favourite team, don't. EDIT: And your question, > If Android was, as you seem to think, not a copy of the original iPhone OS, why did it take a further 18 months to release anything after the initial iPhone unveiling? is blatantly phrased as a leading question. You're really trying to make it seem as though the only reason to not release anything for 18 months after the iphone announcement was to copy the iphone. Give the the iphone the credit it is due; it revolutionized mobile phones. How are you so certain that the question in google wasn't "Why rush to compete with a product that just revolutionized the industry when yours clearly pales in comparison?"
- berntb 13y ago
  Copy/paste was introduced to the market first by Apple. For the Lisa. Not forever, it seems...
radicalbyte 13y ago
> Those same android devices that were > originally copies of iPhones. By the same logic, the iPhone was just a "copy" of the Windows ME phones (iPaq etc). But with finger instead of a stylus. Apple's revolution was in their magnificent marketing; and to a secondary degree the way they simplified the complex "enterprise" phones so that anyone could use them, then exploited that to build the App Store. In the short term they were less functional, but in the long term they "offered" exponentially more features (via 3rd parties in the marketplace).