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To swat down an argument one need only show that it's flawed, not that its converse is proven.
by bermanoid 13y ago
To swat down an argument one need only show that it's flawed, not that its converse is proven.
- gnaritas 13y agoTrue, but you can do so without fallacious reasoning that make you both wrong. Wealth is sometimes a zero-sum game and sometimes not a zero-sum game; not everyone who makes money is creating value for the world, but they usually are.
- run4_too 13y agoValue for the world != things I happen to think are worth a lot. Your view is hampered by your ignorance of the definition of the word value. If people are making money (i.e. selling a product or service for a profit) they are by definition creating value by default. The fact that you may not find what they are doing valuable is as irrelevant to the equation as the fact that I don't like broccoli.
- gnaritas 13y ago> Your view is hampered by your ignorance of the definition of the word value. Given your reply, I'd say it's your ignorance on display here. > If people are making money (i.e. selling a product or service for a profit) they are by definition creating value by default. False. This naive notion assumes everyone is honest and consumers are informed, both of which aren't true. Plenty of people make money by duping customers into thinking they're providing value when they aren't and relying on customers laziness to take the loss when they figure out it was a scam. That someone voluntarily gave you money does not mean you provided them value. There is no value in Homeopathy, there is no value in fake magic aura balancing bracelets; these are simply people scamming stupid people for money by pretending to add value.