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No argument on substance; someone who has no problem maiming or murdering in order, not even to save the life of a tree, but merely to punish people for having
by aaronem 13y ago
No argument on substance; someone who has no problem maiming or murdering in order, not even to save the life of a tree, but merely to punish people for having in some way been associated with a tree's demise, so places himself far beyond any civilized pale. Such a person deserves at the very least a stiff term in prison; should he succeed in his vile endeavor, he is best rewarded with a cigarette, if he wants one, and a nice sunny place to stand and enjoy it. (In case that's not sufficiently clear, I am talking about execution by firing squad.)
But you might want to avoid that word 'terrorist'. It tends to give people an excuse to shut off their brains and feel good about it, where convoluted rhetoric like mine tends to serve as an attractive nuisance ("I could give up on this, but then whoever wrote it might look smarter than me") for long enough to get a point across.
- vdaniuk 13y agoAdvocating extreme violence (an execution with a firing squad) for a group as a punishment for violence( against tree loggers). Amazing hypocrisy.
- aaronem 13y agoHypocrisy, sir? You astonish me. Is it hypocrisy to suggest that the punishment for maiming or murder, with the vilest of malice aforethought, should be judicial execution? -- a life, ended quickly and without suffering, for a life irrevocably ruined or destroyed in gory, agonizing horror? I think not!
- mbetter 13y agoWhere am I? How did I get here?
- Ensorceled 13y agoAgain, any evidence these people are maiming and murdering? Any at all? I found one reference to a possible injury. You are willing to execute these people based upon logging company hearsay and propaganda. See, the idea is you spike the trees you want to SAVE and then you tell the logging company you spiked them ASAP so they DON'T CUT DOWN THE TREES YOU ARE TRYING TO SAVE.
- aaronem 13y agoNo, I am willing to execute them, to the extent of volunteering for the firing squad, without any interest in mine being the rifle loaded with a blank -- if they succeed in maiming or murdering. I notice my previous comment was not clear on this point, and am glad of the opportunity to clarify it now. The mere attempt, in my estimation, merits only a term in prison, as with any other deliberate but unconsummated attempt to inflict grievous harm upon another person, in the absence of extreme provocation such as the need to defend oneself from attack.
- Ensorceled 13y agoInteresting view point. What, pray tell, would you find a suitable punishment for a rapist, murderer or serial killer?
- aaronem 13y agoMuch the same: imprisonment for the attempt, execution for the success. I suspect you will take this response as cause for horror at my unthinkable whatever-you-call-it in equating the gravity of a tree spiker's crime with rape and murder. If so, then you will be no less amazed than am I at the idea that the crimes of such saboteurs are of any less gravity than those of anyone else who, lest the nature of tree spiking be forgotten, sets out to maim or murder, or -- hardly less grave, or more permissible -- to use the threat of such mayhem, occurring at random, to enforce their will.
- Tloewald 13y agoSo let's consider armored car security. They will shoot people who take the bank's money. If I, perfectly reasonably, want some money, they will shoot me. So the banks who employ armored car guards are terrorists who should be imprisoned or executed!
- aaronem 13y agoDo you seriously equate armored car guards with tree spikers? I can't imagine you mean your comment to be taken at face value, but I also can't imagine any other meaning with which you might have loaded it.