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> A physical shops selling CD's is indeed having troubles, but its has verifiable nothing to do with pirates. I'm sure many that still own independent record s

> A physical shops selling CD's is indeed having troubles, but its has verifiable nothing to do with pirates. I'm sure many that still own independent record shops will disagree, including my friend who happens to still work for once which is still surviving. Americans didn't just somehow stop listening to music and buying it around the same time that the mp3 came out in the 1990's because they became enlightened and said "all of this music is crap, I'm not buying it anymore." No, most physical sales have been replaced by piracy and also digital purchases thanks to itunes, amazon mp3 after these stores were finally setup and gained traction, but music sales are overall down and that in part is due to piracy.

belorn 13y ago
If that is true, why can't second hand shop even give away CD's? if its all about price, surely buy 10 for $1 is a should sell out in seconds? Heck, I would not be suprised if some places refused music CD's to be gifted to the store, just because its not worth the space. CD and VHS is sharing the fate of obsolete physical medium. We did not stop watching moves when VHS died, nor did we become enlightened and said "all this films are crap". Nor did we say it when DVDs started to fall, nor should we claim piracy when the doomed VHS store had to switch to DVD, which had to switch to blueray, which had to become a streaming service. > music sales are overall down Fewer people buy a full track compilation CD to get a single good song. Rather than spending $70, they spend $7 and get the song they want, or they spend a monthly fee and get unlimited songs each month. If the overall music sales are down, its because the market has changed. I strongly doubt that the number of individual purchases has gone down at all, and would speculate that it has gone way way up. Feel free to contradict with number of songs sold and listened to by subscribing members, vs number of CD's sold in the 1990s.
- res0nat0r 13y ago
  Sure sales are down just like you mention. Piracy and the ability to spend $1 on the song you want vs. $10 to for the whole cd. Also I seem to remember in the early 90s rummaging thru second hand $1 bins of music. There is always excess crap or discs that are obscure and are hard to move.
  - belorn 13y ago
    If you can show that the number of point of sales (and listening to a song in the subscription model) are down compared to the 1990s, you might have a leg to stand in your statement. Without it, all you have is statistics that say that people paid more for less in the 1990s.

belorn 13y ago

If that is true, why can't second hand shop even give away CD's? if its all about price, surely buy 10 for $1 is a should sell out in seconds? Heck, I would not be suprised if some places refused music CD's to be gifted to the store, just because its not worth the space. CD and VHS is sharing the fate of obsolete physical medium. We did not stop watching moves when VHS died, nor did we become enlightened and said "all this films are crap". Nor did we say it when DVDs started to fall, nor should we claim piracy when the doomed VHS store had to switch to DVD, which had to switch to blueray, which had to become a streaming service. > music sales are overall down Fewer people buy a full track compilation CD to get a single good song. Rather than spending $70, they spend $7 and get the song they want, or they spend a monthly fee and get unlimited songs each month. If the overall music sales are down, its because the market has changed. I strongly doubt that the number of individual purchases has gone down at all, and would speculate that it has gone way way up. Feel free to contradict with number of songs sold and listened to by subscribing members, vs number of CD's sold in the 1990s.

res0nat0r 13y ago
Sure sales are down just like you mention. Piracy and the ability to spend $1 on the song you want vs. $10 to for the whole cd. Also I seem to remember in the early 90s rummaging thru second hand $1 bins of music. There is always excess crap or discs that are obscure and are hard to move.
- belorn 13y ago
  If you can show that the number of point of sales (and listening to a song in the subscription model) are down compared to the 1990s, you might have a leg to stand in your statement. Without it, all you have is statistics that say that people paid more for less in the 1990s.