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locked Tomato Products - Adulteration with Drosophila Fly Eggs and Maggots

7 points by boh 13y ago

zoowar 13y ago
> NOTE: Drosophila maggots 2 mm, or less in length shall be considered equivalent to fly eggs, for the purpose of this guide.
- 2close4comfort 13y ago
  2mm thank GOD we have standards. But I have to wonder what are the 2.1mm maggots counted as? Oh well gotta go time for LUNCH!
lostlogin 13y ago
Growing my own just got a heap more attractive. It might not stop eggs, but I'm not going to have maggots slip through!
petercooper 13y ago
I'm not sure about the current title: "FDA approves 20 or more fly eggs per 100 grams in tomato sauce". Maybe I'm reading it wrong but aren't these guidelines for what the FDA can seize?
- boh 13y ago
  fixed
StavrosK 13y ago
I'd like to see what the actual average is.
rposborne 13y ago
This is a pretty old guidance last updated 11/29/05. And this is not a guideline for what is "Allowed" but is a "represents the criteria for direct reference seizure". Regardless 10 bucks says if you grow your own the rate is going to be much higher. Gardening is not a sterile environment.
brohee 13y ago
There are also directive for insect fragments and rodent hairs in flour. http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyGuidanceManual/ucm074610.htm http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyG... I always point those at vegans, then laugh. Also anyone thinking he's too good for insects is badly mistaken... http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/2013/06/05/i-hate-to-break-it-to-you-but-you-already-eat-bugs/ http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/2013/06/...
FootballMuse 13y ago
Thats great news! I was worried that the 2 more more maggots per 100 grams wouldn't have any friends.
bradly 13y ago
I wonder how organic/non-organic affect the average number of fly eggs? I would assume that non-organic tomatoes would have less fly eggs and maggots, but I'm not educated in the subject.
calciphus 13y ago
There's the oddest bit of cognitive dissonance whenever I see people upset by food purity guidelines. "I don't want chemicals or GMOs keeping insects off my food" "I don't want insects in my food" You can't have it both ways. Anyone who wants their food sterile and devoid of contaminants must then accept that it is covered in, or made entirely of chemicals. You just don't get it both ways.
benguild 13y ago
That's why they call it meat sauce

7 points by boh 13y ago

> NOTE: Drosophila maggots 2 mm, or less in length shall be considered equivalent to fly eggs, for the purpose of this guide.

2close4comfort 13y ago
2mm thank GOD we have standards. But I have to wonder what are the 2.1mm maggots counted as? Oh well gotta go time for LUNCH!

lostlogin 13y ago

Growing my own just got a heap more attractive. It might not stop eggs, but I'm not going to have maggots slip through!

petercooper 13y ago

I'm not sure about the current title: "FDA approves 20 or more fly eggs per 100 grams in tomato sauce". Maybe I'm reading it wrong but aren't these guidelines for what the FDA can seize?

boh 13y ago
fixed

StavrosK 13y ago

I'd like to see what the actual average is.

rposborne 13y ago

This is a pretty old guidance last updated 11/29/05. And this is not a guideline for what is "Allowed" but is a "represents the criteria for direct reference seizure". Regardless 10 bucks says if you grow your own the rate is going to be much higher. Gardening is not a sterile environment.

brohee 13y ago

There are also directive for insect fragments and rodent hairs in flour. http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyGuidanceManual/ucm074610.htm http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyG... I always point those at vegans, then laugh. Also anyone thinking he's too good for insects is badly mistaken... http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/2013/06/05/i-hate-to-break-it-to-you-but-you-already-eat-bugs/ http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/2013/06/...

FootballMuse 13y ago

Thats great news! I was worried that the 2 more more maggots per 100 grams wouldn't have any friends.

bradly 13y ago

I wonder how organic/non-organic affect the average number of fly eggs? I would assume that non-organic tomatoes would have less fly eggs and maggots, but I'm not educated in the subject.

calciphus 13y ago

There's the oddest bit of cognitive dissonance whenever I see people upset by food purity guidelines. "I don't want chemicals or GMOs keeping insects off my food" "I don't want insects in my food" You can't have it both ways. Anyone who wants their food sterile and devoid of contaminants must then accept that it is covered in, or made entirely of chemicals. You just don't get it both ways.

benguild 13y ago

That's why they call it meat sauce