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~18% of fathers are the custodial parent. Shared custody favors the mothers in most circumstances. >60% of of fathers (regardless of custodial status) are requi

by rmc 13y ago

~18% of fathers are the custodial parent. Shared custody favors the mothers in most circumstances. >60% of of fathers (regardless of custodial status) are required to pay child support to the mother. On average, women are awarded more child support than men -- Women also receive >85% of all child support paid every year. Yes, that's the misogynist patriarchy for you. Women are no better at raising children than men. But in Old-Fashioned-Patriarchy-Land, people think women are "naturally" better and men are "naturally" worse. It's called "benevolent sexism".

belorn 13y ago
And when feminists support that model of "benevolent sexism", they indirectly support a misogynistic society. Or we could always redefine that no true feminist would ever say that a woman are more needed (or is better) at taking care of a young child than men. With public platforms like twitter and facebook, organization could easy purge members which such statements if they wanted.
- fibbery 13y ago
  "no true feminist would ever say that a woman are more needed (or is better) at taking care of a young child than men" while I am not a scholar of women's studies, I would hazard that most modern feminists would agree with this statement.
- rmc 13y ago
  What makes you think feminists support that model? They don't.
  - belorn 13y ago
    "Israel is one of the last countries in the world where the Tender Years Doctrine is still in force, if not the last. While the clause reflects an old world order in which mothers were expected to be homemakers and fathers were breadwinners, many feminist politicians and women's groups refuse to have it amended, claiming that the time is not yet ripe for such a change and that men will take advantage of it to put pressure on women in divorce." - http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174956#.Urnmoq2Yn7c http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174956#.Urn... I also read with some horror this for a self-claimed feminist: "Yet under no-fault divorce, a woman can find herself essentially a single mom, drained of family resources by court costs and lawyer fees, and suddenly required to work against her will and sacrifice time with her children." - http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/05/10031/ http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/05/10031/ Hopefully all the above is today a minority view, but it should not be glossed completely over. Feminists and fathers right groups should under all circumstances agree on gender equality, which mean equal time with children and equal requirement to work in an effort to support their own children.

by rmc 13y ago

belorn 13y ago

And when feminists support that model of "benevolent sexism", they indirectly support a misogynistic society. Or we could always redefine that no true feminist would ever say that a woman are more needed (or is better) at taking care of a young child than men. With public platforms like twitter and facebook, organization could easy purge members which such statements if they wanted.

fibbery 13y ago
"no true feminist would ever say that a woman are more needed (or is better) at taking care of a young child than men" while I am not a scholar of women's studies, I would hazard that most modern feminists would agree with this statement.
rmc 13y ago
What makes you think feminists support that model? They don't.
- belorn 13y ago
  "Israel is one of the last countries in the world where the Tender Years Doctrine is still in force, if not the last. While the clause reflects an old world order in which mothers were expected to be homemakers and fathers were breadwinners, many feminist politicians and women's groups refuse to have it amended, claiming that the time is not yet ripe for such a change and that men will take advantage of it to put pressure on women in divorce." - http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174956#.Urnmoq2Yn7c http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174956#.Urn... I also read with some horror this for a self-claimed feminist: "Yet under no-fault divorce, a woman can find herself essentially a single mom, drained of family resources by court costs and lawyer fees, and suddenly required to work against her will and sacrifice time with her children." - http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/05/10031/ http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/05/10031/ Hopefully all the above is today a minority view, but it should not be glossed completely over. Feminists and fathers right groups should under all circumstances agree on gender equality, which mean equal time with children and equal requirement to work in an effort to support their own children.