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Title is slightly misleading...he invented the widely used AK-47. The first assault rifle was the Sturmgewehr 44 (StG 44) invented by the Germans during WW2.

by mpg33 13y ago

Title is slightly misleading...he invented the widely used AK-47. The first assault rifle was the Sturmgewehr 44 (StG 44) invented by the Germans during WW2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44#Legacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44#Legacy

chops 13y ago
So he's an assault rifle inventor, not the assault rifle inventor. The title isn't necessarily misleading so much as ambiguous.
- goldenkey 13y ago
  It's neither. AK47 assault rifle + inventor. What's not to get?
  - chops 13y ago
    Insert comment about how changed titles make entire threads of conversation make it seem like people are talking about different things
fwr 13y ago
"AK47 assault rifle inventor Kalashnikov dies at 94"
- mpg33 13y ago
  looks like op edited title to include "AK47" now
  - yawz 13y ago
    Nope, I didn't. I think AK47 has been there since I posted it.
    - chaz 13y ago
      I think you're mistaken: https://twitter.com/HNTweets/status/415172472275623936 https://twitter.com/HNTweets/status/415172472275623936
      - yawz 13y ago
        My bad! Hmmm... So somebody else modified the title? Whoever it is "Thank you!"
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Uchikoma 13y ago
The StG 44 was the first "modern" assault rifle, there were several similar automatic weapons earlier.
- mynameishere 13y ago
  Pretty much. Submachine guns had been around for years, and WWII saw millions of them, but it apparently never occurred to anyone to scale them up to use rifle cartridges. There were 4.5 million of this weird thing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten In street fighting, I can't imagine it being much worse than an AK 47 (at least in close contact)...and they cost 1/8th of an M1 Garand, so presumably a lot cheaper than what an assault rifle would cost.
  - Gravityloss 13y ago
    As far as I know, the submachine gun has a somewhat different and simpler operating principle. The assault rifle key invention is piping gas from quite far downstream the barrel to a piston that pushes the receiver back and makes it pick a new round. So you get delayed pushback. In a submachine gun with immediate receiver recoil you either lose a lot of gas or have to make the receiver heavy. That's also why the AK47 looks like it looks, it has a "twin barrel" part way, that's where the gas piston is.

by mpg33 13y ago

chops 13y ago

So he's an assault rifle inventor, not the assault rifle inventor. The title isn't necessarily misleading so much as ambiguous.

goldenkey 13y ago
It's neither. AK47 assault rifle + inventor. What's not to get?
- chops 13y ago
  Insert comment about how changed titles make entire threads of conversation make it seem like people are talking about different things

fwr 13y ago

"AK47 assault rifle inventor Kalashnikov dies at 94"

mpg33 13y ago
looks like op edited title to include "AK47" now
- yawz 13y ago
  Nope, I didn't. I think AK47 has been there since I posted it.
  - chaz 13y ago
    I think you're mistaken: https://twitter.com/HNTweets/status/415172472275623936 https://twitter.com/HNTweets/status/415172472275623936
    - yawz 13y ago
      My bad! Hmmm... So somebody else modified the title? Whoever it is "Thank you!"

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Uchikoma 13y ago

The StG 44 was the first "modern" assault rifle, there were several similar automatic weapons earlier.

mynameishere 13y ago
Pretty much. Submachine guns had been around for years, and WWII saw millions of them, but it apparently never occurred to anyone to scale them up to use rifle cartridges. There were 4.5 million of this weird thing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten In street fighting, I can't imagine it being much worse than an AK 47 (at least in close contact)...and they cost 1/8th of an M1 Garand, so presumably a lot cheaper than what an assault rifle would cost.
- Gravityloss 13y ago
  As far as I know, the submachine gun has a somewhat different and simpler operating principle. The assault rifle key invention is piping gas from quite far downstream the barrel to a piston that pushes the receiver back and makes it pick a new round. So you get delayed pushback. In a submachine gun with immediate receiver recoil you either lose a lot of gas or have to make the receiver heavy. That's also why the AK47 looks like it looks, it has a "twin barrel" part way, that's where the gas piston is.