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> "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps i

> "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Please see a doctor. You are experiencing paranoid delusions.

VLM 13y ago
A delusion would imply a site like mapsexoffenders.com and a bazillion other online mapping competitors do not exist. I will give you an out, that your current locale might not release information like this to the public, but many locations do. Or you may simply not have known about these old, popular-ish, existing services. So much for claims of delusion. If, however, that was a ridiculously bad attempt at an ad hominem, well, I'm sorry to say that was just pitiful. You can do better. I mean, even something like "your mom" would have outshined that. There's a level of disrespect beyond disrespect where not even putting in enough effort to be properly disrespectful is in itself disrespect squared, and from that point of view I can salute your effort, but still it wasn't very good. Practice practice practice...
- hahainternet 13y ago
  > So much for claims of delusion You are claiming this will be implemented like a combination of 30s Germany and 00s USA. Despite the fact this is the UK and you have no evidence whatsoever for any of your wild predictions. Seriously, see a doctor. Your statements are massively paranoid and not at all based in reality. If I wanted to say you were wrong because you were stupid I would. In this case you're just believing in wholly illogical things.
  - VLM 13y ago
    I think the root problem of our disagreement would be that you think I am making a formal engineering prediction and is therefore held to an extremely high standard, which is a wee bit higher than I was aiming (I was aiming for a little higher than "the green bay packers are going to the superbowl" but not too much higher). On the other hand your outlook is falsification of a formal hypothesis merely requires repeating over and over "illogic" "paranoid" and such as though they're magic incantations which in and of themselves will convince others, which is highly unlikely. Practice argumentation and debate. Repeated incantations just don't work. Needless to say we aren't agreeing on a mutually acceptable, and equally applied, level of "proof". Oh well. Makes for a boring debate if we can't even agree on the rules of the road (thats a pun, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road you see) I also sense a bit of bias toward a belief that large groups of people tend to behave in a rational and logical manner, whereas my extensive observational experience and historical reading tends toward the exact opposite. Sure would be a nice planet if you were not completely incorrect! So I apologize for implying you were an inexperienced troll, in that I missed the root cause that we have mutually dramatically incompatible outlooks on life (although note I'm a little more of a gentleman WRT not suggesting medical treatment). So have a nice day, and good luck with the whole fascism thing, hope it works out for the UK better than famous historical examples and I hope their cultural phase ends better than some awful historical examples. I'm sure civilization will maintain itself despite people burying their heads in the sand when faced with what boils down to evil and/or a cultural/political hygiene issue.
    - hahainternet 13y ago
      > although note I'm a little more of a gentleman WRT not suggesting medical treatment I'm not saying that to hurt you or your reputation. From my perspective your views are paranoid and illogical. From extensive experience debating people with similar beliefs I believe the best solution is to discuss your feelings with a doctor. The chance of this system ever getting any further is incredibly small. The public backlash has been almost universal and the filters are already being exploited publicly. I honestly have no idea how you could rationally extrapolate 'scarlet P' letters stamped onto licenses.
      - VLM 13y ago
        LOL you must be a lot of fun at sci fi and alt history cons, or any time people start brainstorming about greatly extrapolated trends. The 'scarlet p' is a literary allusion to a very old book of Hawthorne's, wikipedia link below. Some decades ago it was trendy to include it on the reading lists for school children, at least in the midwestern USA. As a piece of literature, its absolutely drowning in symbolism to the point of ridicule, although it certainly demonstrates the utter inhumanity of theocracy as a form of government, so its not all bad. Its has the virtue of brevity. And a scarlet "A" makes quite an appearance. There's worse ways to pass the time, than reading "the scarlet letter". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter

VLM 13y ago

A delusion would imply a site like mapsexoffenders.com and a bazillion other online mapping competitors do not exist. I will give you an out, that your current locale might not release information like this to the public, but many locations do. Or you may simply not have known about these old, popular-ish, existing services. So much for claims of delusion. If, however, that was a ridiculously bad attempt at an ad hominem, well, I'm sorry to say that was just pitiful. You can do better. I mean, even something like "your mom" would have outshined that. There's a level of disrespect beyond disrespect where not even putting in enough effort to be properly disrespectful is in itself disrespect squared, and from that point of view I can salute your effort, but still it wasn't very good. Practice practice practice...

hahainternet 13y ago
> So much for claims of delusion You are claiming this will be implemented like a combination of 30s Germany and 00s USA. Despite the fact this is the UK and you have no evidence whatsoever for any of your wild predictions. Seriously, see a doctor. Your statements are massively paranoid and not at all based in reality. If I wanted to say you were wrong because you were stupid I would. In this case you're just believing in wholly illogical things.
- VLM 13y ago
  I think the root problem of our disagreement would be that you think I am making a formal engineering prediction and is therefore held to an extremely high standard, which is a wee bit higher than I was aiming (I was aiming for a little higher than "the green bay packers are going to the superbowl" but not too much higher). On the other hand your outlook is falsification of a formal hypothesis merely requires repeating over and over "illogic" "paranoid" and such as though they're magic incantations which in and of themselves will convince others, which is highly unlikely. Practice argumentation and debate. Repeated incantations just don't work. Needless to say we aren't agreeing on a mutually acceptable, and equally applied, level of "proof". Oh well. Makes for a boring debate if we can't even agree on the rules of the road (thats a pun, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road you see) I also sense a bit of bias toward a belief that large groups of people tend to behave in a rational and logical manner, whereas my extensive observational experience and historical reading tends toward the exact opposite. Sure would be a nice planet if you were not completely incorrect! So I apologize for implying you were an inexperienced troll, in that I missed the root cause that we have mutually dramatically incompatible outlooks on life (although note I'm a little more of a gentleman WRT not suggesting medical treatment). So have a nice day, and good luck with the whole fascism thing, hope it works out for the UK better than famous historical examples and I hope their cultural phase ends better than some awful historical examples. I'm sure civilization will maintain itself despite people burying their heads in the sand when faced with what boils down to evil and/or a cultural/political hygiene issue.
  - hahainternet 13y ago
    > although note I'm a little more of a gentleman WRT not suggesting medical treatment I'm not saying that to hurt you or your reputation. From my perspective your views are paranoid and illogical. From extensive experience debating people with similar beliefs I believe the best solution is to discuss your feelings with a doctor. The chance of this system ever getting any further is incredibly small. The public backlash has been almost universal and the filters are already being exploited publicly. I honestly have no idea how you could rationally extrapolate 'scarlet P' letters stamped onto licenses.
    - VLM 13y ago
      LOL you must be a lot of fun at sci fi and alt history cons, or any time people start brainstorming about greatly extrapolated trends. The 'scarlet p' is a literary allusion to a very old book of Hawthorne's, wikipedia link below. Some decades ago it was trendy to include it on the reading lists for school children, at least in the midwestern USA. As a piece of literature, its absolutely drowning in symbolism to the point of ridicule, although it certainly demonstrates the utter inhumanity of theocracy as a form of government, so its not all bad. Its has the virtue of brevity. And a scarlet "A" makes quite an appearance. There's worse ways to pass the time, than reading "the scarlet letter". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter