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> All you really need to do is see how the Germans treated the Jews in the mid 30s. I'm not trying to be inflamatory, merely factual. I specifically listed the

> All you really need to do is see how the Germans treated the Jews in the mid 30s. I'm not trying to be inflamatory, merely factual. I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. Wow. I have nothing to say but wow.

VLM 13y ago
I feel the need to list the specific treatments we can soon expect, inspired by mid 1930s Germany: A list will be created of people requiring special treatment by those in power, and a crowd of miscreants will enforce that treatment against anyone opposing it. Those on the list will not be permitted to participate in the government, sensitive posts in the military, or to teach. Those on the list will be publicly identified for ridicule. Would not be surprised to see a scarlet "P" on drivers licenses and such. After all, its "to protect the children". Some people are more equal than others. At some point they'll be unable to hold certain non-public jobs; companies will be terrified to be identified as hiring people "on the list" so to limit liability they'll have to stop hiring. Businesses opened and operated by people on the "scarlet P" list will be picketed. If you think I'm making this up, you probably think the Westboro Baptist Church is a made up story. Political and family enemies will be added to the list, guilty until proven innocent of course. "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Divide and conqueror, baby, divide and conqueror, thats what its all about. Thats why I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. I don't think we're quite up to lighting the ovens just yet, although I'm sure theres a segment of the population and a segment of .gov who wants it.
- hahainternet 13y ago
  > "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Please see a doctor. You are experiencing paranoid delusions.
  - VLM 13y ago
    A delusion would imply a site like mapsexoffenders.com and a bazillion other online mapping competitors do not exist. I will give you an out, that your current locale might not release information like this to the public, but many locations do. Or you may simply not have known about these old, popular-ish, existing services. So much for claims of delusion. If, however, that was a ridiculously bad attempt at an ad hominem, well, I'm sorry to say that was just pitiful. You can do better. I mean, even something like "your mom" would have outshined that. There's a level of disrespect beyond disrespect where not even putting in enough effort to be properly disrespectful is in itself disrespect squared, and from that point of view I can salute your effort, but still it wasn't very good. Practice practice practice...
    - hahainternet 13y ago
      > So much for claims of delusion You are claiming this will be implemented like a combination of 30s Germany and 00s USA. Despite the fact this is the UK and you have no evidence whatsoever for any of your wild predictions. Seriously, see a doctor. Your statements are massively paranoid and not at all based in reality. If I wanted to say you were wrong because you were stupid I would. In this case you're just believing in wholly illogical things.
      - VLM 13y ago
        I think the root problem of our disagreement would be that you think I am making a formal engineering prediction and is therefore held to an extremely high standard, which is a wee bit higher than I was aiming (I was aiming for a little higher than "the green bay packers are going to the superbowl" but not too much higher). On the other hand your outlook is falsification of a formal hypothesis merely requires repeating over and over "illogic" "paranoid" and such as though they're magic incantations which in and of themselves will convince others, which is highly unlikely. Practice argumentation and debate. Repeated incantations just don't work. Needless to say we aren't agreeing on a mutually acceptable, and equally applied, level of "proof". Oh well. Makes for a boring debate if we can't even agree on the rules of the road (thats a pun, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road you see) I also sense a bit of bias toward a belief that large groups of people tend to behave in a rational and logical manner, whereas my extensive observational experience and historical reading tends toward the exact opposite. Sure would be a nice planet if you were not completely incorrect! So I apologize for implying you were an inexperienced troll, in that I missed the root cause that we have mutually dramatically incompatible outlooks on life (although note I'm a little more of a gentleman WRT not suggesting medical treatment). So have a nice day, and good luck with the whole fascism thing, hope it works out for the UK better than famous historical examples and I hope their cultural phase ends better than some awful historical examples. I'm sure civilization will maintain itself despite people burying their heads in the sand when faced with what boils down to evil and/or a cultural/political hygiene issue.

VLM 13y ago

I feel the need to list the specific treatments we can soon expect, inspired by mid 1930s Germany: A list will be created of people requiring special treatment by those in power, and a crowd of miscreants will enforce that treatment against anyone opposing it. Those on the list will not be permitted to participate in the government, sensitive posts in the military, or to teach. Those on the list will be publicly identified for ridicule. Would not be surprised to see a scarlet "P" on drivers licenses and such. After all, its "to protect the children". Some people are more equal than others. At some point they'll be unable to hold certain non-public jobs; companies will be terrified to be identified as hiring people "on the list" so to limit liability they'll have to stop hiring. Businesses opened and operated by people on the "scarlet P" list will be picketed. If you think I'm making this up, you probably think the Westboro Baptist Church is a made up story. Political and family enemies will be added to the list, guilty until proven innocent of course. "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Divide and conqueror, baby, divide and conqueror, thats what its all about. Thats why I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. I don't think we're quite up to lighting the ovens just yet, although I'm sure theres a segment of the population and a segment of .gov who wants it.

hahainternet 13y ago
> "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Please see a doctor. You are experiencing paranoid delusions.
- VLM 13y ago
  A delusion would imply a site like mapsexoffenders.com and a bazillion other online mapping competitors do not exist. I will give you an out, that your current locale might not release information like this to the public, but many locations do. Or you may simply not have known about these old, popular-ish, existing services. So much for claims of delusion. If, however, that was a ridiculously bad attempt at an ad hominem, well, I'm sorry to say that was just pitiful. You can do better. I mean, even something like "your mom" would have outshined that. There's a level of disrespect beyond disrespect where not even putting in enough effort to be properly disrespectful is in itself disrespect squared, and from that point of view I can salute your effort, but still it wasn't very good. Practice practice practice...
  - hahainternet 13y ago
    > So much for claims of delusion You are claiming this will be implemented like a combination of 30s Germany and 00s USA. Despite the fact this is the UK and you have no evidence whatsoever for any of your wild predictions. Seriously, see a doctor. Your statements are massively paranoid and not at all based in reality. If I wanted to say you were wrong because you were stupid I would. In this case you're just believing in wholly illogical things.
    - VLM 13y ago
      I think the root problem of our disagreement would be that you think I am making a formal engineering prediction and is therefore held to an extremely high standard, which is a wee bit higher than I was aiming (I was aiming for a little higher than "the green bay packers are going to the superbowl" but not too much higher). On the other hand your outlook is falsification of a formal hypothesis merely requires repeating over and over "illogic" "paranoid" and such as though they're magic incantations which in and of themselves will convince others, which is highly unlikely. Practice argumentation and debate. Repeated incantations just don't work. Needless to say we aren't agreeing on a mutually acceptable, and equally applied, level of "proof". Oh well. Makes for a boring debate if we can't even agree on the rules of the road (thats a pun, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road you see) I also sense a bit of bias toward a belief that large groups of people tend to behave in a rational and logical manner, whereas my extensive observational experience and historical reading tends toward the exact opposite. Sure would be a nice planet if you were not completely incorrect! So I apologize for implying you were an inexperienced troll, in that I missed the root cause that we have mutually dramatically incompatible outlooks on life (although note I'm a little more of a gentleman WRT not suggesting medical treatment). So have a nice day, and good luck with the whole fascism thing, hope it works out for the UK better than famous historical examples and I hope their cultural phase ends better than some awful historical examples. I'm sure civilization will maintain itself despite people burying their heads in the sand when faced with what boils down to evil and/or a cultural/political hygiene issue.