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What if people massively "opt in", thus dismantling many social taboos around the subject?

by return0 13y ago

DanBC 13y ago
What if the filters are so poor that many people will want to opt in even if they have no interest in online pornography?
Silhouette 13y ago
I'm fairly sure that's exactly what would happen if they made this mandatory. Obviously a lot of people do enjoy watching porn on-line, and personally I have no problem with that (with the usual caveats about consenting adults etc.). Some of those people will be shy about admitting it, but plenty won't care. Moreover, even those who don't watch porn on-line have several good reasons to opt out: support of civil liberties, technical concerns over whether any filter will actually work properly, objections to the general "nanny state" trend and absolving parents of responsibility for properly supervising their own children, and the list goes on. I think enforcing these kinds of measures will just make Cameron and Perry look even more out of touch than they already do.
VLM 13y ago
Leak the list of course, and use it as a weapon against anyone in politics or the public eye. Much as you can fire any public schoolteacher seen consuming alcohol in any form, now any librarian or political opponent will be attacked for being "on the list". May as well wear a scarlet letter "P" on your 3-piece suit. Of course if you'll agree to support what we define as network neutrality, perhaps your name can accidentally not be included on "the list". Or we can charge an extra fee for an unlisted account much as the phone company used to charge extra money for an unlisted account. Even funnier it would be a shame if your political opponent were added to the list, right? I mean, obviously no one would ever execute a pretexting attack to tarnish the good name of their political opponent, or perhaps the good name of a coworker aiming for the same political appointment as yourself. All you really need to do is see how the Germans treated the Jews in the mid 30s. I'm not trying to be inflamatory, merely factual. I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s.
- hahainternet 13y ago
  > All you really need to do is see how the Germans treated the Jews in the mid 30s. I'm not trying to be inflamatory, merely factual. I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. Wow. I have nothing to say but wow.
  - VLM 13y ago
    I feel the need to list the specific treatments we can soon expect, inspired by mid 1930s Germany: A list will be created of people requiring special treatment by those in power, and a crowd of miscreants will enforce that treatment against anyone opposing it. Those on the list will not be permitted to participate in the government, sensitive posts in the military, or to teach. Those on the list will be publicly identified for ridicule. Would not be surprised to see a scarlet "P" on drivers licenses and such. After all, its "to protect the children". Some people are more equal than others. At some point they'll be unable to hold certain non-public jobs; companies will be terrified to be identified as hiring people "on the list" so to limit liability they'll have to stop hiring. Businesses opened and operated by people on the "scarlet P" list will be picketed. If you think I'm making this up, you probably think the Westboro Baptist Church is a made up story. Political and family enemies will be added to the list, guilty until proven innocent of course. "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Divide and conqueror, baby, divide and conqueror, thats what its all about. Thats why I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. I don't think we're quite up to lighting the ovens just yet, although I'm sure theres a segment of the population and a segment of .gov who wants it.
    - hahainternet 13y ago
      > "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Please see a doctor. You are experiencing paranoid delusions.
      - 13y ago

What if people massively "opt in", thus dismantling many social taboos around the subject?

by return0 13y ago

What if people massively "opt in", thus dismantling many social taboos around the subject?

DanBC 13y ago

What if the filters are so poor that many people will want to opt in even if they have no interest in online pornography?

Silhouette 13y ago

I'm fairly sure that's exactly what would happen if they made this mandatory. Obviously a lot of people do enjoy watching porn on-line, and personally I have no problem with that (with the usual caveats about consenting adults etc.). Some of those people will be shy about admitting it, but plenty won't care. Moreover, even those who don't watch porn on-line have several good reasons to opt out: support of civil liberties, technical concerns over whether any filter will actually work properly, objections to the general "nanny state" trend and absolving parents of responsibility for properly supervising their own children, and the list goes on. I think enforcing these kinds of measures will just make Cameron and Perry look even more out of touch than they already do.

VLM 13y ago

Leak the list of course, and use it as a weapon against anyone in politics or the public eye. Much as you can fire any public schoolteacher seen consuming alcohol in any form, now any librarian or political opponent will be attacked for being "on the list". May as well wear a scarlet letter "P" on your 3-piece suit. Of course if you'll agree to support what we define as network neutrality, perhaps your name can accidentally not be included on "the list". Or we can charge an extra fee for an unlisted account much as the phone company used to charge extra money for an unlisted account. Even funnier it would be a shame if your political opponent were added to the list, right? I mean, obviously no one would ever execute a pretexting attack to tarnish the good name of their political opponent, or perhaps the good name of a coworker aiming for the same political appointment as yourself. All you really need to do is see how the Germans treated the Jews in the mid 30s. I'm not trying to be inflamatory, merely factual. I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s.

hahainternet 13y ago
> All you really need to do is see how the Germans treated the Jews in the mid 30s. I'm not trying to be inflamatory, merely factual. I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. Wow. I have nothing to say but wow.
- VLM 13y ago
  I feel the need to list the specific treatments we can soon expect, inspired by mid 1930s Germany: A list will be created of people requiring special treatment by those in power, and a crowd of miscreants will enforce that treatment against anyone opposing it. Those on the list will not be permitted to participate in the government, sensitive posts in the military, or to teach. Those on the list will be publicly identified for ridicule. Would not be surprised to see a scarlet "P" on drivers licenses and such. After all, its "to protect the children". Some people are more equal than others. At some point they'll be unable to hold certain non-public jobs; companies will be terrified to be identified as hiring people "on the list" so to limit liability they'll have to stop hiring. Businesses opened and operated by people on the "scarlet P" list will be picketed. If you think I'm making this up, you probably think the Westboro Baptist Church is a made up story. Political and family enemies will be added to the list, guilty until proven innocent of course. "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Divide and conqueror, baby, divide and conqueror, thats what its all about. Thats why I specifically listed the 30s not the 40s. I don't think we're quite up to lighting the ovens just yet, although I'm sure theres a segment of the population and a segment of .gov who wants it.
  - hahainternet 13y ago
    > "To save the children" maps of neighborhoods with "scarlet P" overlaid on homes on the list will be distributed, much as we already distribute predator maps in the USA. Please see a doctor. You are experiencing paranoid delusions.
    - 13y ago