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North Korea? Cyber war? This is crap. People in North Korea starve! They have no cars, not even shampoo. They have no resources or man power to start anything "

North Korea? Cyber war? This is crap. People in North Korea starve! They have no cars, not even shampoo. They have no resources or man power to start anything "cyber".

FooBarWidget 17y ago
Journalists love to use the term, but what is a "cyber war" anyway? The first thing I think about is a bunch of script kiddies trying to take over each other's IRC channels with netsplits and operator status, and trying to erase each other's hard drives with Sub7.
- roc 17y ago
  Well, a cyber-strike would be a coordinated digital attack meant to achieve a strategic goal by force. So a cyber war, by extension, would be a prolonged exchange of such strikes. So this could plausibly be one such strike in an on-going conflict that is far more 'real' than script kiddie squabbling. Could have been a penetration attack to steal technological secrets. Could have been a penetration to plant backdoors/loggers for later use. Could be service disruptions to hamper a particular project. (Take down the network serving No Fly List sorts of updates to get a possibly-compromised agent on a plane or over a border.) Could just be a 'recon' attack to see what we have connected and how we react. A sort of digital equivalent to the kinds of 'disruption' that we financed and supported from Okinawa toward China for many years. But I personally find it hard to believe that any state-sponsored cyber 'strike' would be limited to a DDoS on public-facing services. That sounds like a smokescreen at best.
roam 17y ago
Maybe it is crap, but this has nothing to do with the people of North Korea. It's (allegedly) their government. The one that also has the ability to manufacture and launch rockets. How many bottles of shampoo could you buy with that?
- onreact-com 17y ago
  Yeah, they can fire a few rockets per year and most probably that's the main reason they starve as they use up all of their resources and scientists for that. NK is one of the poorest countries in the world. I don't believe the North Korea hype.
noonespecial 17y ago
Korea, North — GDP: 40 Billion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_North_Korea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_North_Korea There might be a little extra in there some where for a trip to Fry's for some l33t hax0r t00lz.

North Korea? Cyber war? This is crap. People in North Korea starve! They have no cars, not even shampoo. They have no resources or man power to start anything "cyber".

FooBarWidget 17y ago

Journalists love to use the term, but what is a "cyber war" anyway? The first thing I think about is a bunch of script kiddies trying to take over each other's IRC channels with netsplits and operator status, and trying to erase each other's hard drives with Sub7.

roc 17y ago
Well, a cyber-strike would be a coordinated digital attack meant to achieve a strategic goal by force. So a cyber war, by extension, would be a prolonged exchange of such strikes. So this could plausibly be one such strike in an on-going conflict that is far more 'real' than script kiddie squabbling. Could have been a penetration attack to steal technological secrets. Could have been a penetration to plant backdoors/loggers for later use. Could be service disruptions to hamper a particular project. (Take down the network serving No Fly List sorts of updates to get a possibly-compromised agent on a plane or over a border.) Could just be a 'recon' attack to see what we have connected and how we react. A sort of digital equivalent to the kinds of 'disruption' that we financed and supported from Okinawa toward China for many years. But I personally find it hard to believe that any state-sponsored cyber 'strike' would be limited to a DDoS on public-facing services. That sounds like a smokescreen at best.

roam 17y ago

Maybe it is crap, but this has nothing to do with the people of North Korea. It's (allegedly) their government. The one that also has the ability to manufacture and launch rockets. How many bottles of shampoo could you buy with that?

onreact-com 17y ago
Yeah, they can fire a few rockets per year and most probably that's the main reason they starve as they use up all of their resources and scientists for that. NK is one of the poorest countries in the world. I don't believe the North Korea hype.

noonespecial 17y ago

Korea, North — GDP: 40 Billion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_North_Korea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_North_Korea There might be a little extra in there some where for a trip to Fry's for some l33t hax0r t00lz.