You seem to be missing the larger point. Nobody is proposing that secure messaging apps should not exist. Everyone is better when more people try, iterate and f

You seem to be missing the larger point. Nobody is proposing that secure messaging apps should not exist. Everyone is better when more people try, iterate and fail (then recover and fix) to create secure messaging solutions. What's unsafe and unproductive is when bozos jump in the pool, apparently ignorant or otherwise misrepresentative of the reality of how difficult it is to create a correct solution -- and confidently declare their implementations to be trustable. If the messaging on Telegram had been, the world needs a secure messaging solution and we're committed to building it starting with this thing which we think is pretty good for XYZ, nobody would be objecting. Instead, these guys presented themselves as having solved a problem which is known to be difficult, and moreover using an unlikely method.