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In regards to sharing, I believe your provider can detect this and charge you more.

kalleboo 13y ago
I'm on an MVNO who doesn't care, but the settings for the network the MVNO runs ontop of override it with a different APN. It's times like this I really hate Apple's operator-relationship BS.
- girvo 13y ago
  I hate how they make it super hard if not impossible to override the APNs yourself... I change carriers every month, and do all sorts of odd stuff with my SIMs, and my iPhone chokes on them because of it :(
  - superuser2 13y ago
    >I change carriers every month I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of people actually doing this, which would explain why your use case doesn't get substantial engineering/UX resources.
    - kalleboo 13y ago
      They don't need any engineering/UX, they just need to stop locking down all the settings. Android and every dumbphone I ever owned had no problems with this.
      - superuser2 13y ago
        Are the settings locked down or do they just not exist? Apple would have to create and test the interface, make sure it's not possible to disable your device with it, etc. Which is a small thing, but easy to miss when there's no obvious need for it (except, of course, a few edge cases).
    - girvo 13y ago
      Of course my use case is very much and edge case, but if they just let me have access to the damned settings it wouldn't be a problem. It's my one gripe with my iPhone
  - ValentineC 13y ago
    > I change carriers every month Is this because of travel and being in a different country?
  - archagon 13y ago
    My understanding was that you could change them yourself using either the iPhone Configuration Utility or http://www.unlockit.co.nz http://www.unlockit.co.nz. Has something changed in that regard?
    - kalleboo 13y ago
      Tethering APNs and a few other settings (such as LTE enabling) are signed and can't be overridden that way
      - archagon 13y ago
        Good to know, thanks for the info. Is there no way for carriers to apply these settings directly? I know Bell did some tinkering on my iPad when I got a SIM from them while traveling in Canada, but I don't know if it was anything more advanced than what the user can access.
cjfont 13y ago
Can you elaborate? How can they detect this other than using methods such as looking at your user-agent or TTL, both of which could be controlled on a jail-broken device?
- DrJokepu 13y ago
  The traffic patterns of a mobile phone and a desktop computer are very different, even if all you do is browsing.
  - cjfont 13y ago
    To my knowledge this is usually because the server responds to the browser's user-agent and serves content appropriate for the mobile device. If you override the user-agent and mimic a desktop browser, how would the traffic pattern be different then? EDIT: I meant to state if you were to override the desktop's user-agent to mimic a mobile device while tethered.
    - noblethrasher 13y ago
      An iOS device making periodic requests to https://*.update.microsoft.com https://*.update.microsoft.com might be one of many red flags.

I'm on an MVNO who doesn't care, but the settings for the network the MVNO runs ontop of override it with a different APN. It's times like this I really hate Apple's operator-relationship BS.

girvo 13y ago
I hate how they make it super hard if not impossible to override the APNs yourself... I change carriers every month, and do all sorts of odd stuff with my SIMs, and my iPhone chokes on them because of it :(
- superuser2 13y ago
  >I change carriers every month I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of people actually doing this, which would explain why your use case doesn't get substantial engineering/UX resources.
  - kalleboo 13y ago
    They don't need any engineering/UX, they just need to stop locking down all the settings. Android and every dumbphone I ever owned had no problems with this.
    - superuser2 13y ago
      Are the settings locked down or do they just not exist? Apple would have to create and test the interface, make sure it's not possible to disable your device with it, etc. Which is a small thing, but easy to miss when there's no obvious need for it (except, of course, a few edge cases).
  - girvo 13y ago
    Of course my use case is very much and edge case, but if they just let me have access to the damned settings it wouldn't be a problem. It's my one gripe with my iPhone
- ValentineC 13y ago
  > I change carriers every month Is this because of travel and being in a different country?
- archagon 13y ago
  My understanding was that you could change them yourself using either the iPhone Configuration Utility or http://www.unlockit.co.nz http://www.unlockit.co.nz. Has something changed in that regard?
  - kalleboo 13y ago
    Tethering APNs and a few other settings (such as LTE enabling) are signed and can't be overridden that way
    - archagon 13y ago
      Good to know, thanks for the info. Is there no way for carriers to apply these settings directly? I know Bell did some tinkering on my iPad when I got a SIM from them while traveling in Canada, but I don't know if it was anything more advanced than what the user can access.

cjfont 13y ago

Can you elaborate? How can they detect this other than using methods such as looking at your user-agent or TTL, both of which could be controlled on a jail-broken device?

DrJokepu 13y ago
The traffic patterns of a mobile phone and a desktop computer are very different, even if all you do is browsing.
- cjfont 13y ago
  To my knowledge this is usually because the server responds to the browser's user-agent and serves content appropriate for the mobile device. If you override the user-agent and mimic a desktop browser, how would the traffic pattern be different then? EDIT: I meant to state if you were to override the desktop's user-agent to mimic a mobile device while tethered.
  - noblethrasher 13y ago
    An iOS device making periodic requests to https://*.update.microsoft.com https://*.update.microsoft.com might be one of many red flags.