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> There is no formal definition of feminism, and everybody that claims something stupid under it's name just hurts it. A feminist advocates or supports the rig

> There is no formal definition of feminism, and everybody that claims something stupid under it's name just hurts it. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women. Full stop.

lawl 13y ago
That's what I thought. And then a huge flamewar emerged in IRC about how equality is wrong. It should be comparability not equality. Because eqaulity would mean men == women. So the rights shouldn't be equal but comparable, because mixed soccer leagues would be unfair. It went then on in a discussion if the idea of comparability isn't maybe patriarchic because in studying performance between gender there has been no significant statistical difference etc. etc. So no. You're wrong.
- mherkender 13y ago
  How can I be wrong about the dictionary definition of a word?
  - lawl 13y ago
    Touché. But you understand what I'm getting at. Even if you take the dictionary definition there is still a lot of room for interpretation. Who defines what equality exactly includes? And please don't post the definition of equality now ;-) I can't change the pastebin now.
    - mherkender 13y ago
      I'm an atheist, and there are atheists I don't agree with, but there isn't one way to be an atheist and I don't really expect anything from them except to not believe in god. I see feminism to be the same way, and I think you expect too much uniformity from it. Gender equality (I'll spare you the definition) includes many things, so I'm not sure how to explain it better than that, but I do think it includes not having unfairly strong, negative reactions to anything involving feminism and the common topics this kind of forum has.
- actsasbuffoon 13y ago
  This is the first I've heard of the comparability argument. At first glance it reminds me of the old, "separate but equal" catchphrase we used when dealing with ethnic minorities in the US. The system led to treatment that was indeed separate, but equal... not so much.
yetanotherphd 13y ago
A communist is someone who supports the rights and equality of the poor. It makes me sad to think that there are still bitter people who hate the poor so much that they oppose communism.
- PauloManrique 13y ago
  Makes me sad to think there are still people supporting communism after it killed 170kk plus in less than 100 years. Edit: Missed a "k"

> There is no formal definition of feminism, and everybody that claims something stupid under it's name just hurts it. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women. Full stop.

lawl 13y ago

That's what I thought. And then a huge flamewar emerged in IRC about how equality is wrong. It should be comparability not equality. Because eqaulity would mean men == women. So the rights shouldn't be equal but comparable, because mixed soccer leagues would be unfair. It went then on in a discussion if the idea of comparability isn't maybe patriarchic because in studying performance between gender there has been no significant statistical difference etc. etc. So no. You're wrong.

mherkender 13y ago
How can I be wrong about the dictionary definition of a word?
- lawl 13y ago
  Touché. But you understand what I'm getting at. Even if you take the dictionary definition there is still a lot of room for interpretation. Who defines what equality exactly includes? And please don't post the definition of equality now ;-) I can't change the pastebin now.
  - mherkender 13y ago
    I'm an atheist, and there are atheists I don't agree with, but there isn't one way to be an atheist and I don't really expect anything from them except to not believe in god. I see feminism to be the same way, and I think you expect too much uniformity from it. Gender equality (I'll spare you the definition) includes many things, so I'm not sure how to explain it better than that, but I do think it includes not having unfairly strong, negative reactions to anything involving feminism and the common topics this kind of forum has.
actsasbuffoon 13y ago
This is the first I've heard of the comparability argument. At first glance it reminds me of the old, "separate but equal" catchphrase we used when dealing with ethnic minorities in the US. The system led to treatment that was indeed separate, but equal... not so much.

yetanotherphd 13y ago

A communist is someone who supports the rights and equality of the poor. It makes me sad to think that there are still bitter people who hate the poor so much that they oppose communism.

PauloManrique 13y ago
Makes me sad to think there are still people supporting communism after it killed 170kk plus in less than 100 years. Edit: Missed a "k"