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When I was looking for a flat in Berlin in 2003. I was given a key and the address of an obviously not empty appartment. When I opened the door that was clear i

by biafra 13y ago

When I was looking for a flat in Berlin in 2003. I was given a key and the address of an obviously not empty appartment. When I opened the door that was clear immediatly. Since then I alway change the lock in the main door. This has also the advantage that I can go for something better than what the landlord deems apropriate. Last time I went for EVVA 3KS. Is that still state of the art? I am not saying this happened here.

nwh 13y ago
> Since then I alway change the lock in the main door. I'd check your tenancy laws, that's certainly not legal in some countries. I would be evicted if I did that.
- kintamanimatt 13y ago
  Where are you?
  - nwh 13y ago
    Australia. "A party to a tenancy agreement who changes any external door or window lock must as soon as practicable give a key to the lock to the other party." "A tenant who wishes to change a lock in a master key system must obtain the landlord's consent before changing that lock." Our tenancy law is extremely specific and breaches of it either end in termination, mediation, or disciplinary action against the landlord. It's very effective so long as long as everybody understands their rights and responsibilities. I know of people who've changed their locks and been evicted as a direct result. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207/s70.html http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207...
- biafra 13y ago
  Interesting. And frightning. So your landlord always has access to your home? That is certainly different in Germany. Are you allowed to install an alarm system and not give him the code? He is not allowed to enter any time, I guess? Or is he?
  - nwh 13y ago
    Entering without my permission (or 2 weeks notice) is grounds for immediate termination of my lease (see the link below). Installing an alarm system and not giving them the code isn't covered, but I would be extremely unwise to do that. There's a lot covering the tenant if the landlord does enter without permission, and the only time I've had a problem with it lead to a lot of voluntarily refunded rent. It's not really thought of as strange, though I would prefer to have my own locks personally. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207/s70.html http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207...

by biafra 13y ago

nwh 13y ago

> Since then I alway change the lock in the main door. I'd check your tenancy laws, that's certainly not legal in some countries. I would be evicted if I did that.

kintamanimatt 13y ago
Where are you?
- nwh 13y ago
  Australia. "A party to a tenancy agreement who changes any external door or window lock must as soon as practicable give a key to the lock to the other party." "A tenant who wishes to change a lock in a master key system must obtain the landlord's consent before changing that lock." Our tenancy law is extremely specific and breaches of it either end in termination, mediation, or disciplinary action against the landlord. It's very effective so long as long as everybody understands their rights and responsibilities. I know of people who've changed their locks and been evicted as a direct result. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207/s70.html http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207...
biafra 13y ago
Interesting. And frightning. So your landlord always has access to your home? That is certainly different in Germany. Are you allowed to install an alarm system and not give him the code? He is not allowed to enter any time, I guess? Or is he?
- nwh 13y ago
  Entering without my permission (or 2 weeks notice) is grounds for immediate termination of my lease (see the link below). Installing an alarm system and not giving them the code isn't covered, but I would be extremely unwise to do that. There's a lot covering the tenant if the landlord does enter without permission, and the only time I've had a problem with it lead to a lot of voluntarily refunded rent. It's not really thought of as strange, though I would prefer to have my own locks personally. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207/s70.html http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rta1997207...