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Arresting a diplomat will always cause problems but it was absolutely inexcusable for this diplomat to expect to get away with underpaying their housekeeper. T

Arresting a diplomat will always cause problems but it was absolutely inexcusable for this diplomat to expect to get away with underpaying their housekeeper. That said, strip-searching someone over a wage dispute is far beyond the pale as well. And strip-searching an Indian diplomat for no particularly good reason during an arrest, is not just wrong, but also really fucking stupid, as it could have actual security implications for the US in India as we have already seen with some of the embassy's protection being withdrawn.

FrankenPC 13y ago
Our authoritarian oligarchy is spilling over into the international community. First the wars, then the NSA, now violating laws of diplomatic immunity. If I weren't a level headed guy, I'd have to say that on the OUTSIDE, The USA is starting to look like an insane imperialist nation.
- gaadd33 13y ago
  What laws of diplomatic immunity were violated? Are diplomats immune to every law in the country they are in?
  - sleepyK 13y ago
    May I present, for your viewing pleasure, a certain Raymond Allen Davis. "President Barack Obama asked Pakistan not to prosecute Davis and recognize him as a diplomat, stating, "There's a broader principle at stake that I think we have to uphold." I see that this 'broader principle' doesn't seem to apply to a legitimate diplomat... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident
JumpCrisscross 13y ago
Rich, poor, American, Kazakh, it doesn't matter. If you are arrested you are strip searched to protect you, the prison staff, and the other prisoners. There are different kinds of diplomatic immunity. Hers was explicitly limited to official work. The run-Americans-over-and-get-off-scot-free kind is a different diplomatic designation.
- moocowduckquack 13y ago
  If you are arrested you are strip searched to protect you, the prison staff, and the other prisoners. Given that it obviously doesn't at all work at keeping stuff out of jails, would you entertain the idea that the reason behind standardising strip-search might be more psychological in nature.
  - gress 13y ago
    This is false, It's not a given that it doesn't work at all. This measure could well be dramatically reducing the amount of stuff in jails. Just because there are other ways to bring things in that haven't been prevented yet does not imply that all measures are ineffective.
  - toufka 13y ago
    A jail is different from a prison. I would expect such searches to work quite well, and to (possibly) be a reasonable part of jailing someone.
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- sleepyK 13y ago
  And yet Raymond Davis went scot free when the Americans claimed that he had diplomatic immunity. Let's just take this for what it was, a District Attorney trying to gain as much publicity as possible. The Saudis have been committing graver abuse of their domestic help for years, but nobody in America has had the balls to come out and cavity search an oil rich Saudi yet.
  - nols 13y ago
    Raymond Davis didn't go scot free when the US claimed he had diplomatic immunity, he was imprisoned by Pakistan.
    - kamakazizuru 13y ago
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FrankenPC 13y ago

Our authoritarian oligarchy is spilling over into the international community. First the wars, then the NSA, now violating laws of diplomatic immunity. If I weren't a level headed guy, I'd have to say that on the OUTSIDE, The USA is starting to look like an insane imperialist nation.

gaadd33 13y ago
What laws of diplomatic immunity were violated? Are diplomats immune to every law in the country they are in?
- sleepyK 13y ago
  May I present, for your viewing pleasure, a certain Raymond Allen Davis. "President Barack Obama asked Pakistan not to prosecute Davis and recognize him as a diplomat, stating, "There's a broader principle at stake that I think we have to uphold." I see that this 'broader principle' doesn't seem to apply to a legitimate diplomat... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident

JumpCrisscross 13y ago

Rich, poor, American, Kazakh, it doesn't matter. If you are arrested you are strip searched to protect you, the prison staff, and the other prisoners. There are different kinds of diplomatic immunity. Hers was explicitly limited to official work. The run-Americans-over-and-get-off-scot-free kind is a different diplomatic designation.

moocowduckquack 13y ago
If you are arrested you are strip searched to protect you, the prison staff, and the other prisoners. Given that it obviously doesn't at all work at keeping stuff out of jails, would you entertain the idea that the reason behind standardising strip-search might be more psychological in nature.
- gress 13y ago
  This is false, It's not a given that it doesn't work at all. This measure could well be dramatically reducing the amount of stuff in jails. Just because there are other ways to bring things in that haven't been prevented yet does not imply that all measures are ineffective.
- toufka 13y ago
  A jail is different from a prison. I would expect such searches to work quite well, and to (possibly) be a reasonable part of jailing someone.
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sleepyK 13y ago
And yet Raymond Davis went scot free when the Americans claimed that he had diplomatic immunity. Let's just take this for what it was, a District Attorney trying to gain as much publicity as possible. The Saudis have been committing graver abuse of their domestic help for years, but nobody in America has had the balls to come out and cavity search an oil rich Saudi yet.
- nols 13y ago
  Raymond Davis didn't go scot free when the US claimed he had diplomatic immunity, he was imprisoned by Pakistan.
  - kamakazizuru 13y ago

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