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I voted for this story as it's such a lovely idea - this is a prototype, an educational hack, and not a consumer product. It is clearly not expected to be compa

I voted for this story as it's such a lovely idea - this is a prototype, an educational hack, and not a consumer product. It is clearly not expected to be compared to mass-produced products or to somehow solve the world's recycling issues. Printed, lightweight electronics may well help address recycling in the future, and that was one off-hand comment at the end of the article. I was really sad to see this nasty, entirely negative and mostly irrelevant comment at the top in response. From the article pic captions: The goal is to demystify the gadgets people use every day. I'd say it succeeds admirably, particularly the annotated circuit diagram with the actual components spread out within it. What a wonderful idea for an educational tool that could be used in schools for example to demonstrate simple electronic circuits. Clearly it's not some high end speaker replacement, a solution for recycling issues, world hunger, your demand for quality music in your home (!), or intended to trick you into thinking anything. It's a little demo, a hack, and I think it's a good one.

diydsp 13y ago
> that was one off-hand comment at the end of the article. Kennedy's assassination was one bad action at the end of an otherwise lovely day, yet we still have to take it as part of the whole. So, when the designer says, "I want less electronic waste" and then makes electronic waste, I am calling them out on it. I'm blaming the writer for a bad article, too and if you think this is somehow news, you should have linked to a better source of this info. For example, here are two other articles on the same design from over a week ago without the fake environmental rhetoric: http://www.designboom.com/technology/conductive-electronic-paper-speakers-by-coralie-gourguechon- http://www.designboom.com/technology/conductive-electronic-p... 12-12-2013/ http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-simplest-speaker-is-silkscreened-on-a-piece-1481884888 http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-simplest-speaker-is-silkscreen... Here's the same article again, from last month, also without any fake environmental rhetoric: http://www.creativeapplications.net/sound/paper-electronics-by-coralie-gourguechon/ http://www.creativeapplications.net/sound/paper-electronics-... :) Now, since you are so excited about home-made speakers, I'm sure you'll lead us in another round of healthy enthusiasm for another home-made speaker from 5 years ago by a _2nd_grader_? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CxMm0ksJ8Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CxMm0ksJ8Y And now another home-made speaker from 5 years ago from household materials by two high schoolers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995yt8Eb5FU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995yt8Eb5FU Here's another such home-made speaker from five years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90jJ9bKmRg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90jJ9bKmRg Oh yeah, here's another home-made speaker and audio circuit like OP's with half a million views that was two years ago. I used to be friends with this girl and her husband, I should look them up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1F5Gg4bG3o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1F5Gg4bG3o And if you are not completely exhausted and can't understand why I think presenting this as news is silly, here's a 4-part video series on how to make a decent, 20 watt speaker and that teaches you how to calculate and measure basic electrical terms like impedance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rwZvM1Tx4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rwZvM1Tx4 I would greatly admire that one for its demystification and educational qualities as opposed to the tinny, hissing thing in OP. Here's another nice, minimal home-made speaker re-using a wire spool, from a year ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYywo-UUkJA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYywo-UUkJA Here's the design and construction of an entire subwoofer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IeUElN8oQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IeUElN8oQ Here's ANOTHER little school kid who made something sounding about as good as OPs article last week. Why isn't this "news"??? It only has 3 views so far. Go post him a nice comment, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHX10ouc-lw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHX10ouc-lw The practice of making and teaching how to make speakers from every day objects and from scratch is and has been an ongoing practice for decades and decades. So why is this article suddenly considered news? I'm sorry if you're really sad, but I disagree with this newsworthiness of this article. Also, there's been an instructable on how to do make speakers from scratch, how can OP be news? http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-Paper-Speakers-From-Scratch/ http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-Paper-Speakers-F... And a "maker" project on using a paper plate to make a home-made speaker: http://makezine.com/projects/styrofoam-plate-speaker/ http://makezine.com/projects/styrofoam-plate-speaker/ Even ehow has a crappy article ( With no pictures?! Is it really so easy to do that we don't even have to see it to know? possibly.) on the topic: http://www.ehow.com/how_4895246_make-speaker-out-paper-plate.html http://www.ehow.com/how_4895246_make-speaker-out-paper-plate... Ehow can also do it with a paper plate (and no pictures): http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plastic-cup.html http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plast... Here's one using Legos from 2007: http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plastic-cup.html http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plast... Here's another one with really great pictures: http://science.wonderhowto.com/how-to/make-paper-plate-speaker-actually-works-for-under-1-0141522/ http://science.wonderhowto.com/how-to/make-paper-plate-speak... When you look around, you'll see people have been making educational paper speakers with and without soldering for years and years. And none of them are waving the "less electronic waste" flag. Article is a hack, but not news.
- shadowfox 13y ago
  > > that was one off-hand comment at the end of the article. > Kennedy's assassination was one bad action at the end of an otherwise lovely day, yet we still have to take it as part of the whole Good lord, way to equate things.
- grey-area 13y ago
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diydsp 13y ago

> that was one off-hand comment at the end of the article. Kennedy's assassination was one bad action at the end of an otherwise lovely day, yet we still have to take it as part of the whole. So, when the designer says, "I want less electronic waste" and then makes electronic waste, I am calling them out on it. I'm blaming the writer for a bad article, too and if you think this is somehow news, you should have linked to a better source of this info. For example, here are two other articles on the same design from over a week ago without the fake environmental rhetoric: http://www.designboom.com/technology/conductive-electronic-paper-speakers-by-coralie-gourguechon- http://www.designboom.com/technology/conductive-electronic-p... 12-12-2013/ http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-simplest-speaker-is-silkscreened-on-a-piece-1481884888 http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-simplest-speaker-is-silkscreen... Here's the same article again, from last month, also without any fake environmental rhetoric: http://www.creativeapplications.net/sound/paper-electronics-by-coralie-gourguechon/ http://www.creativeapplications.net/sound/paper-electronics-... :) Now, since you are so excited about home-made speakers, I'm sure you'll lead us in another round of healthy enthusiasm for another home-made speaker from 5 years ago by a _2nd_grader_? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CxMm0ksJ8Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CxMm0ksJ8Y And now another home-made speaker from 5 years ago from household materials by two high schoolers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995yt8Eb5FU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995yt8Eb5FU Here's another such home-made speaker from five years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90jJ9bKmRg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90jJ9bKmRg Oh yeah, here's another home-made speaker and audio circuit like OP's with half a million views that was two years ago. I used to be friends with this girl and her husband, I should look them up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1F5Gg4bG3o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1F5Gg4bG3o And if you are not completely exhausted and can't understand why I think presenting this as news is silly, here's a 4-part video series on how to make a decent, 20 watt speaker and that teaches you how to calculate and measure basic electrical terms like impedance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rwZvM1Tx4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rwZvM1Tx4 I would greatly admire that one for its demystification and educational qualities as opposed to the tinny, hissing thing in OP. Here's another nice, minimal home-made speaker re-using a wire spool, from a year ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYywo-UUkJA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYywo-UUkJA Here's the design and construction of an entire subwoofer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IeUElN8oQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IeUElN8oQ Here's ANOTHER little school kid who made something sounding about as good as OPs article last week. Why isn't this "news"??? It only has 3 views so far. Go post him a nice comment, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHX10ouc-lw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHX10ouc-lw The practice of making and teaching how to make speakers from every day objects and from scratch is and has been an ongoing practice for decades and decades. So why is this article suddenly considered news? I'm sorry if you're really sad, but I disagree with this newsworthiness of this article. Also, there's been an instructable on how to do make speakers from scratch, how can OP be news? http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-Paper-Speakers-From-Scratch/ http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-Paper-Speakers-F... And a "maker" project on using a paper plate to make a home-made speaker: http://makezine.com/projects/styrofoam-plate-speaker/ http://makezine.com/projects/styrofoam-plate-speaker/ Even ehow has a crappy article ( With no pictures?! Is it really so easy to do that we don't even have to see it to know? possibly.) on the topic: http://www.ehow.com/how_4895246_make-speaker-out-paper-plate.html http://www.ehow.com/how_4895246_make-speaker-out-paper-plate... Ehow can also do it with a paper plate (and no pictures): http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plastic-cup.html http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plast... Here's one using Legos from 2007: http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plastic-cup.html http://www.ehow.com/how_6630889_make-homemade-speakers-plast... Here's another one with really great pictures: http://science.wonderhowto.com/how-to/make-paper-plate-speaker-actually-works-for-under-1-0141522/ http://science.wonderhowto.com/how-to/make-paper-plate-speak... When you look around, you'll see people have been making educational paper speakers with and without soldering for years and years. And none of them are waving the "less electronic waste" flag. Article is a hack, but not news.

shadowfox 13y ago
> > that was one off-hand comment at the end of the article. > Kennedy's assassination was one bad action at the end of an otherwise lovely day, yet we still have to take it as part of the whole Good lord, way to equate things.
grey-area 13y ago
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