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"I had to spend around two full years memorizing key chords" Yet another user who thinks emacs is about the key cords. It's not, it's about extensibility. I ch

by dmortin 13y ago

"I had to spend around two full years memorizing key chords" Yet another user who thinks emacs is about the key cords. It's not, it's about extensibility. I changed most of the default key bindings, because they were inconvenient. Remember: Emacs should adapt to you, not the other way around. That's what Emacs is about. Some people even use VIM bindings in Emacs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz_0i27wYbg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz_0i27wYbg

klibertp 13y ago
Yes, yes, yes! I came here to write exactly this: what is the point of having infinitely configurable and extensible editor if you don't configure it and extend it to your liking? The very first thing I did after switching to Emacs was to rebind most frequently used keys to something sane. The next thing was to make the functions themselves sane - IIRC the first command I wrote was "comment-or-uncomment-region-or-line". My emacs config is about 4k lines of my own code at this point, very little of which implements anything by itself. It's full of customize-options, hooks and defadvices, eval-when-loads and similar things, which make Emacs into my editor. If I had to learn some defaults I couldn't change I would just use some IDE or another editor.
- dded 13y ago
  > the first command I wrote was "comment-or-uncomment-region-or-line" verilog-mode (and I imagine others) includes something like this this. C-c C-c comments region, and C-c C-u uncomments it. It handles embedded /* */-style embedded comments intelligently.
  - klibertp 13y ago
    I don't want to hit different keys for commenting and uncommenting! What I want is to have one key which does all this: 1. if there is no region active and current line is not commented - comment it 2. if there is no region active and current line is commented - uncomment it 3. if there is region active and it's fully commented - uncomment that region 4 otherwise comment the full region And it's this easy to do this: (defun comment-or-uncomment-region-or-line () "Comments or uncomments the region or the current line if there's no active region." (interactive) (let (beg end) (if (region-active-p) (setq beg (region-beginning) end (region-end)) (setq beg (line-beginning-position) end (line-end-position))) (comment-or-uncomment-region beg end))) So I see absolutely no reason for not coding this up and using it :) (Other than, heck, it really is my first ELisp function and it shows :D)
    - ics 13y ago
      Evil-nerd-commenter does the same thing, but if I didn't use email I would have the same thing in my init. It's pretty great.

by dmortin 13y ago

klibertp 13y ago

Yes, yes, yes! I came here to write exactly this: what is the point of having infinitely configurable and extensible editor if you don't configure it and extend it to your liking? The very first thing I did after switching to Emacs was to rebind most frequently used keys to something sane. The next thing was to make the functions themselves sane - IIRC the first command I wrote was "comment-or-uncomment-region-or-line". My emacs config is about 4k lines of my own code at this point, very little of which implements anything by itself. It's full of customize-options, hooks and defadvices, eval-when-loads and similar things, which make Emacs into my editor. If I had to learn some defaults I couldn't change I would just use some IDE or another editor.

dded 13y ago
> the first command I wrote was "comment-or-uncomment-region-or-line" verilog-mode (and I imagine others) includes something like this this. C-c C-c comments region, and C-c C-u uncomments it. It handles embedded /* */-style embedded comments intelligently.
- klibertp 13y ago
  I don't want to hit different keys for commenting and uncommenting! What I want is to have one key which does all this: 1. if there is no region active and current line is not commented - comment it 2. if there is no region active and current line is commented - uncomment it 3. if there is region active and it's fully commented - uncomment that region 4 otherwise comment the full region And it's this easy to do this: (defun comment-or-uncomment-region-or-line () "Comments or uncomments the region or the current line if there's no active region." (interactive) (let (beg end) (if (region-active-p) (setq beg (region-beginning) end (region-end)) (setq beg (line-beginning-position) end (line-end-position))) (comment-or-uncomment-region beg end))) So I see absolutely no reason for not coding this up and using it :) (Other than, heck, it really is my first ELisp function and it shows :D)
  - ics 13y ago
    Evil-nerd-commenter does the same thing, but if I didn't use email I would have the same thing in my init. It's pretty great.