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Interesting. bluekitten seems to have been hellbanned after posting only two comments. Is that all it takes? Edit: And in the time it took me to post this, the

Interesting. bluekitten seems to have been hellbanned after posting only two comments. Is that all it takes? Edit: And in the time it took me to post this, the comment appears!

sillysaurus2 13y ago
This is both mistaken and a distraction from a very important topic. EDIT: It's mistaken that she was banned for her two comments. It's unreasonable to read her comments and conclude she was hellbanned for asking a question about Steam and correcting someone about her gender. There's also no way to know whether she was hellbanned, or simply posting comments via Tor. If a new account posts comments via Tor, those comments are autokilled. It's not till the newbie status wears off (i.e. until your username is no longer green in your comments page) that using Tor won't cause your comments to be autokilled. This is done for obvious reasons: spammers use Tor to spam annoying things. Lastly, there are plenty of nefarious things that one can do to be deservedly hellbanned on HN; bans are issued for more reasons than just writing comments. Oh, and, if you are hellbanned and are sincerely sorry for what you did, you can email info@ycombinator.com with a sincere apology and may get leniency. I know from experience. Can we please get back to letting people unwind about their heartwrenching experiences with mortality now?
- ewoodrich 13y ago
  Eh, I wouldn't say it's a distraction, considering people reveal hellbanning on any manner of topics, for a legitimate reason. And it's not mistaken, I nearly alerted bluekitten that they were banned for no real reason on a different thread, before someone else pointed it out.
- lmm 13y ago
  Bluekitten's still green, so it's unlikely to be the Tor issue you describe. It's perfectly reasonable to conclude she was hellbaned for those things: given the available evidence, it's the most plausible interpretation. Being able to apologise and get unbanned might be a reasonable defence of the system except the entire point of hellbanning is that you can't tell when you've been hellbanned. The lack of transparency or accountability in the HN moderation system is itself a very important topic.
booyaa00 13y ago
Yes. Hellbanning is random. Although making 'dissenting' comments, or disagreeing with the hivemind certainly accelerates your hellbanning. I've been hellbanned umpteen times for essentially no good reasons.
- SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
  > Hellbanning is random ... I've been hellbanned umpteen times for essentially no good reasons. LOL. Replies to previous comments of yours: > Well trolled...time to move on > Feel like I am replying to a obvious troll
  - booyaa00 13y ago
    The meaning of "troll" has been diluted so much in recent years, that it's now largely used by the media, and people in general, to mean someone who expresses a view that you disagree with. And it's used to describe people on twitter who harass or post abusive comments. "troll" used to mean something. Now it's just a stock insult.
ffrryuu 13y ago
Yes, this place is heavily censored.

Interesting. bluekitten seems to have been hellbanned after posting only two comments. Is that all it takes? Edit: And in the time it took me to post this, the comment appears!

sillysaurus2 13y ago

This is both mistaken and a distraction from a very important topic. EDIT: It's mistaken that she was banned for her two comments. It's unreasonable to read her comments and conclude she was hellbanned for asking a question about Steam and correcting someone about her gender. There's also no way to know whether she was hellbanned, or simply posting comments via Tor. If a new account posts comments via Tor, those comments are autokilled. It's not till the newbie status wears off (i.e. until your username is no longer green in your comments page) that using Tor won't cause your comments to be autokilled. This is done for obvious reasons: spammers use Tor to spam annoying things. Lastly, there are plenty of nefarious things that one can do to be deservedly hellbanned on HN; bans are issued for more reasons than just writing comments. Oh, and, if you are hellbanned and are sincerely sorry for what you did, you can email info@ycombinator.com with a sincere apology and may get leniency. I know from experience. Can we please get back to letting people unwind about their heartwrenching experiences with mortality now?

ewoodrich 13y ago
Eh, I wouldn't say it's a distraction, considering people reveal hellbanning on any manner of topics, for a legitimate reason. And it's not mistaken, I nearly alerted bluekitten that they were banned for no real reason on a different thread, before someone else pointed it out.
lmm 13y ago
Bluekitten's still green, so it's unlikely to be the Tor issue you describe. It's perfectly reasonable to conclude she was hellbaned for those things: given the available evidence, it's the most plausible interpretation. Being able to apologise and get unbanned might be a reasonable defence of the system except the entire point of hellbanning is that you can't tell when you've been hellbanned. The lack of transparency or accountability in the HN moderation system is itself a very important topic.

booyaa00 13y ago

Yes. Hellbanning is random. Although making 'dissenting' comments, or disagreeing with the hivemind certainly accelerates your hellbanning. I've been hellbanned umpteen times for essentially no good reasons.

SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
> Hellbanning is random ... I've been hellbanned umpteen times for essentially no good reasons. LOL. Replies to previous comments of yours: > Well trolled...time to move on > Feel like I am replying to a obvious troll
- booyaa00 13y ago
  The meaning of "troll" has been diluted so much in recent years, that it's now largely used by the media, and people in general, to mean someone who expresses a view that you disagree with. And it's used to describe people on twitter who harass or post abusive comments. "troll" used to mean something. Now it's just a stock insult.

ffrryuu 13y ago

Yes, this place is heavily censored.