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I have personally experienced this on five occasions in the work place. I can say that only once did no one have any idea that there was an issue. I have seen

I have personally experienced this on five occasions in the work place. I can say that only once did no one have any idea that there was an issue. I have seen CO's, junior enlisted, and the inbetween. The powers of self loathing are in my experience not the driver, the most dangerous force is self confirmed failure. The type or scale of the failure does not matter, only the persons value of that failure matter. That being said. Go in to work tomorrow and make a forceful effort to engage with anyone that you think may have any issue with failure overwhelming them. The only weapon that can help is others.

DigitalJack 13y ago
Are you talking about suicide? The man in the article died of natural causes. Even so, I totally agree with regards to failure and its magnitude not necessarily (or even frequently) having a relationship to the self loathing one can feel due to that failure. I struggle with this a couple times a year. Holding one's self to overly high standards can be unhealthy.
- frankydp 13y ago
  I am talking about suicide. I felt the article was mostly about that thought process with the reality being kind of the side note. When I have run across people that I thought were having a hard time with failure, they are usually measuring themselves against the completely self contrived version of the peer that they see as being better. My context may be skewed, but the guys that have the hardest time are the ones that thought no one else was having any issues. This is of course a symptom of the military culture, but can play out in the tech world as the insanely successful skew the perception of failure, upward. By that I mean tech people measure themselves against, not the just doing fine peer, but to the exploding all expectations peer, which is completely improbable and truly self defeating.
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DigitalJack 13y ago

Are you talking about suicide? The man in the article died of natural causes. Even so, I totally agree with regards to failure and its magnitude not necessarily (or even frequently) having a relationship to the self loathing one can feel due to that failure. I struggle with this a couple times a year. Holding one's self to overly high standards can be unhealthy.

frankydp 13y ago
I am talking about suicide. I felt the article was mostly about that thought process with the reality being kind of the side note. When I have run across people that I thought were having a hard time with failure, they are usually measuring themselves against the completely self contrived version of the peer that they see as being better. My context may be skewed, but the guys that have the hardest time are the ones that thought no one else was having any issues. This is of course a symptom of the military culture, but can play out in the tech world as the insanely successful skew the perception of failure, upward. By that I mean tech people measure themselves against, not the just doing fine peer, but to the exploding all expectations peer, which is completely improbable and truly self defeating.
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