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> The gaming world is a cesspit of maladjusted, comically aggressive, emotionally (and maybe actually) adolescent males who have a deep fear and distrust of wom
by richforrester 13y ago
> The gaming world is a cesspit of maladjusted, comically aggressive, emotionally (and maybe actually) adolescent males who have a deep fear and distrust of women. The problematic gamers are, naturally, almost exclusively male – and no doubt skew towards the young side. No-one’s surprised by that. I’m not surprised.
Well thanks. Man, I don't even know where to start.
I'm male, 30+, and have been cursed at too. Sure, they didn't tailor their insults towards me being female (because I'm not) but that's just it; online, it's just words. Ignore them. That's what you do.
I've met my girlfriend online, and we've been together for about 5 years now. I've been active in the unreal tournament community, counterstrike, world of warcraft, Utopia, etc. Many, varied.
Sure there are some rotten apples, just like in real life.
Just ignore them, just like you ignore that drunk guy at the cafe that keeps getting close. If you can ignore the beggar on the street, or the street-marketeer, or the adds messing with your movie experience, you can ignore idiots on the web too.
.edit: okay, let me stress that YES this is an issue, but;
1) I take offense to calling the entire gaming world a cesspit of maladjusted, comically aggressive, emotionally adolescent males. I'm a gamer. Calling me the above doesn't put me in a great mood.
2) The site linked in that post has whole posts dedicated to getting the middle finger + the word "bitch". Learn to ignore them damnit.
3) > The problematic gamers are, naturally, almost exclusively male
- well sure, you're female. Females aren't going to do this because, well, they'd be insulting their own sex?
- well yeah, they're in the majority. In most communities I've been active 90% is male, so chances are 9 in 10 off of sheer numbers alone.
- well of course, females won't approach you in a sexual context because most people are straight.
- well obviously, if there is any discrimination, it'll be practiced by the larger part of the community, vs the smaller part. It just doesn't happen the other way around.
None of these make me respect the writers opinion.
If the point of this article is to piss off the good guys, it's working. Now get the hell off my internet, because you're just as bad as the people sending you nasty messages.
- pyrocat 13y ago> it's just words. Ignore them. This advice is pretty hollow coming from someone who doesn't have to put up with constant sexual harassment, who doesn't have to deal with cat calls and the fear of being raped that comes with them, and who can use their real voice on game chat without getting rape threats. Check your privilege.
- ps4fanboy 13y agoYou dont think being called a fagget is sexual harassment?
- pyrocat 13y agoIt is, but unless you actually are gay in real life and have had to deal with being called a faggot in real life, I'm going to have more sympathy for females who have to deal with sexual harassment online. They're both terrible behavior that we (as a gaming community) should object to when we hear it.
- ps4fanboy 13y agoI have sympathy for everyone who is harassed online, I do not think anyone is actually being singled out for harassment because of who or what they are. If people really wanted to fix it they need to admit that this fact is true first, because treating this as a sexism problem is disingenuous.
- pyrocat 13y agoWomen get way way way more shit online than men. Ignoring that is disingenuous.
- ps4fanboy 13y agoYou seem to be making a lot of assertions of fact without anything to back it up. I would say that is disingenuous.
- pyrocat 13y agoFair enough, I just assumed people would accept the premise that women get more harassment online than men without me having to cite a study. It seems pretty obvious to me.
- Flimm 13y agoIt's just words, just ignore him. You don't need to comment about it. Right?
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- pyrocat 13y ago> If the point of this article is to piss off the good guys, it's working. Now get the hell off my internet, because you're just as bad as the people sending you nasty messages. Yeah the guy who's talking about the problem is JUST AS BAD as the people perpetrating the problem.
- transitionality 13y agoWorse.
- pyrocat 13y agoThanks for adding to the discussion! We value your input!
- transitionality 13y agoNobody values yours. This entire thread is full of people shooting your nonsense down. Get a clue already.
- pyrocat 13y agoMy karma score from this thread begs to differ. I'm not here to convince people that my opinion is 100% right, I'm here to provide alternate viewpoints that might broaden someones perspective. All you appear to be doing is trolling.
- transitionality 13y agoYou're here to lie. I caught you lying twice and exposed it both times. You're also spewing hate speech all over the place. Have some shame.
- pyrocat 13y agoHahahahaha
- chipsy 13y agoAs I've gotten the opportunity to run some game events or moderate discussion, I have some thoughts about this. Making a space positive and inclusive is not a magical process, but it means going a lot farther than telling victims to "ignore the noise." It requires the stakeholders to be proactive. They must consider how to moderate the space in such a way that minority voices are protected. If this doesn't happen, by default, the loudest majority will command the framework and drain points of discussion into fallacious, self-serving thinking like the low-level insults that permeate most online games. It can happen in many ways, shapes and forms(whether the hotbutton is gender, sexuality, politics, race...), but this quality is true of every space I've observed.
- hubtree 13y agoagreed