> "It is very, very rare that a device comes to our labs--in fact, I don't think that it has happened--that we don't find a vulnerability," That's pretty surpr

> "It is very, very rare that a device comes to our labs--in fact, I don't think that it has happened--that we don't find a vulnerability," That's pretty surprising if he is talking about vulnerabilities that don't include making some kind of physical breach/connection to the ATM.