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Yeah, that's pretty ballsy. Seems like they're exposing themselves to unnecessary poaching risk. And what do they do in that situation? What if someone has a co

Yeah, that's pretty ballsy. Seems like they're exposing themselves to unnecessary poaching risk. And what do they do in that situation? What if someone has a competing offer and they want to keep them around? Offer a bonus?

fleitz 13y ago
Nope, you talk about transparency, fairness, etc. If you're sticking to that salary structure you're not going to win on price in this market. Warm fuzzies are important to a lot of people, look at how non-profits retain people. Also, there are a lot of people who don't know how to negotiate that would probably benefit from something like this. I know a few devs who stick around at places because they like the people, etc, despite having had multiple offers for more money. Not my style, but it takes all sorts.
- 7Figures2Commas 13y ago
  > I know a lot of devs who stick around at places because they like the people, etc, despite having had multiple offers for more money. Sure, but that's not the only consideration here. Employees don't always have the option of sticking around at a company. Not all startups make it, and people are terminated or laid off from jobs they love all the time. If and when the time comes to find another job, a public record of your previous salary may not benefit you in your negotiations with prospective employers.
  - fleitz 13y ago
    If you're not employed you have a very poor BATNA.
jonlucc 13y ago
It seems like they're ok with the poaching risk. I would assume most of their employees are happy enough, or they'd leave. I'm not sure having the salary posted is a big change from that perspective.
- kansface 13y ago
  People don't work that way. There is quite a bit of discontent or discomfort people will put up with until they are sufficiently motivated to take action. The number of people who are underpaid by 30% and unwilling to look for another job is far greater than the number who would accept that offer once its in front of them.
pekk 13y ago
If they are paying well then they are actually discouraging poaching
- smm2000 13y ago
  The thing is that Buffer does not pay well... I will say that they pay on the lower side of acceptable.

fleitz 13y ago

Nope, you talk about transparency, fairness, etc. If you're sticking to that salary structure you're not going to win on price in this market. Warm fuzzies are important to a lot of people, look at how non-profits retain people. Also, there are a lot of people who don't know how to negotiate that would probably benefit from something like this. I know a few devs who stick around at places because they like the people, etc, despite having had multiple offers for more money. Not my style, but it takes all sorts.

7Figures2Commas 13y ago
> I know a lot of devs who stick around at places because they like the people, etc, despite having had multiple offers for more money. Sure, but that's not the only consideration here. Employees don't always have the option of sticking around at a company. Not all startups make it, and people are terminated or laid off from jobs they love all the time. If and when the time comes to find another job, a public record of your previous salary may not benefit you in your negotiations with prospective employers.
- fleitz 13y ago
  If you're not employed you have a very poor BATNA.

jonlucc 13y ago

It seems like they're ok with the poaching risk. I would assume most of their employees are happy enough, or they'd leave. I'm not sure having the salary posted is a big change from that perspective.

kansface 13y ago
People don't work that way. There is quite a bit of discontent or discomfort people will put up with until they are sufficiently motivated to take action. The number of people who are underpaid by 30% and unwilling to look for another job is far greater than the number who would accept that offer once its in front of them.

pekk 13y ago

If they are paying well then they are actually discouraging poaching

smm2000 13y ago
The thing is that Buffer does not pay well... I will say that they pay on the lower side of acceptable.