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This sort of cements the idea that Android really is a copy of iOS in most ways. Of course they've made some of their own innovations, and there are a few thing

This sort of cements the idea that Android really is a copy of iOS in most ways. Of course they've made some of their own innovations, and there are a few things that work better than on iOS. I think Steve Jobs was probably justified in his furious reaction to Android. disclosure: Android user, I dislike many aspects of iOS, namely the restrictive policies of the app store, and the totally broken app sharing UX.

ceejayoz 13y ago
I think it's more a "no one can get away with the old shitty UIs anymore". Touch screens and iOS were a better way of doing smart phones, and not adapting was suicide for the companies that chose not to.
craigyk 13y ago
I think what made Jobs understandably furious was that the CEO of Google was on Apple's board. Not that he wouldn't have been litigious otherwise, but I think that moved it into vendetta territory.
- jerf 13y ago
  However, notice that if this article is true, then it also implies that Google was caught completely flat-footed by the iPhone, CEO on the board of Apple or no.
  - runamok 13y ago
    Yeah, I find that part interesting. Given Apple's secrecy would the board even have specific details for a new product?
  - Shooti 13y ago
    That theory never made sense since Schmidt joined the board only 3 months before the official Apple unveiling in January: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/08/29Google-CEO-Dr-Eric-Schmidt-Joins-Apples-Board-of-Directors.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/08/29Google-CEO-Dr-Eric...
cma 13y ago
>I think Steve Jobs was probably justified in his furious reaction to Android. iOS was more of a copy of palm (which in turn was a copy of Newton..) than android was a copy of iOS. The biggest innovation was realizing capactive screens made things much nicer, and made browsing possible. But it is hard to fault Google for copying their browser when Apple themselves based it on LGPLed KHTML; the license dictates that they share.
- pessimizer 13y ago
  >realizing capactive screens made things much nicer In what way? Inaccuracy and the inability to use a stylus or wear gloves? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66RBfrBgL2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66RBfrBgL2E edit: surprised at the downvotes. Is there a capacitive screen even remotely comparable to the accuracy and pressure response of a 4 year old resistant N900? I'm open to examples.
  - Sephiroth87 13y ago
    If only someone could come up with a way to use a stylus on a capacitive screen... Oh wait...
    - girvo 13y ago
      Nah, nowhere near the same. Look, I love capacitive screens. But nothing beat a stylus for accuracy when you've got a 2.4" QVGA touchscreen, and for certain tasks that was a lot better than a 3.5" capacitive one. That was when I used my M600i (then my P1i) for managing my entire life. Now, with the advent of 7" tablets I use that instead, for that sort of high info density work :) Capacitive stylii are terrible. All the downsides of needed to have something in your hand to poke at a screen with none of the accuracy that a stylus with a resistive one had.
    - pessimizer 13y ago
      You can make a stylus for a capacitive screen by making a capacitive stylus. My wonder is why one would make using a stylus a more difficult and expensive proposition in order to have a lower quality screen input.

ceejayoz 13y ago

I think it's more a "no one can get away with the old shitty UIs anymore". Touch screens and iOS were a better way of doing smart phones, and not adapting was suicide for the companies that chose not to.

craigyk 13y ago

I think what made Jobs understandably furious was that the CEO of Google was on Apple's board. Not that he wouldn't have been litigious otherwise, but I think that moved it into vendetta territory.

jerf 13y ago
However, notice that if this article is true, then it also implies that Google was caught completely flat-footed by the iPhone, CEO on the board of Apple or no.
- runamok 13y ago
  Yeah, I find that part interesting. Given Apple's secrecy would the board even have specific details for a new product?
- Shooti 13y ago
  That theory never made sense since Schmidt joined the board only 3 months before the official Apple unveiling in January: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/08/29Google-CEO-Dr-Eric-Schmidt-Joins-Apples-Board-of-Directors.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/08/29Google-CEO-Dr-Eric...

cma 13y ago

>I think Steve Jobs was probably justified in his furious reaction to Android. iOS was more of a copy of palm (which in turn was a copy of Newton..) than android was a copy of iOS. The biggest innovation was realizing capactive screens made things much nicer, and made browsing possible. But it is hard to fault Google for copying their browser when Apple themselves based it on LGPLed KHTML; the license dictates that they share.

pessimizer 13y ago
>realizing capactive screens made things much nicer In what way? Inaccuracy and the inability to use a stylus or wear gloves? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66RBfrBgL2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66RBfrBgL2E edit: surprised at the downvotes. Is there a capacitive screen even remotely comparable to the accuracy and pressure response of a 4 year old resistant N900? I'm open to examples.
- Sephiroth87 13y ago
  If only someone could come up with a way to use a stylus on a capacitive screen... Oh wait...
  - girvo 13y ago
    Nah, nowhere near the same. Look, I love capacitive screens. But nothing beat a stylus for accuracy when you've got a 2.4" QVGA touchscreen, and for certain tasks that was a lot better than a 3.5" capacitive one. That was when I used my M600i (then my P1i) for managing my entire life. Now, with the advent of 7" tablets I use that instead, for that sort of high info density work :) Capacitive stylii are terrible. All the downsides of needed to have something in your hand to poke at a screen with none of the accuracy that a stylus with a resistive one had.
  - pessimizer 13y ago
    You can make a stylus for a capacitive screen by making a capacitive stylus. My wonder is why one would make using a stylus a more difficult and expensive proposition in order to have a lower quality screen input.