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I dont reallt care if facebook tracks me through iframes or if google tracks me through analytics. I volunteered to go to a website, that volunteered to use th

I dont reallt care if facebook tracks me through iframes or if google tracks me through analytics. I volunteered to go to a website, that volunteered to use that service. I can choose not to visit the source sites or the associate ones. The problem I see with all of this "the governments - or - some government - or - the UN - needs to protect our privacy!!!" Against whom? Facebook? Google? How about GOVERNMENTS. If you ask me, any sort of nefarious behaviour commited by web companies are most likely the product of a larger, coercive form of behaviour starting from the government.

icebraining 13y ago
I volunteered to go to a website, that volunteered to use that service. I can choose not to visit the source sites or the associate ones. How do you know those sites have those trackers before visiting them? The only way to "opt-out" of the sites with such trackers is to stop using the web entirely. Against whom? Facebook? Google? How about GOVERNMENTS. Actually, yes. In the (European) country I live in, public organizations have been prevented from invading privacy (e.g. setting CCTV cameras) by our national data protection commission. If you ask me, any sort of nefarious behaviour commited by web companies are most likely the product of a larger, coercive form of behaviour starting from the government. How is web analytics and personal data mining a product of State spying? And even if it is, how is it justifiable on that basis?
- tokenizer 13y ago
  > How do you know those sites have those trackers before visiting them? The only way to "opt-out" of the sites with such trackers is to stop using the web entirely. iframes going to facebook, scripts going to google-analytics.com/ga.js, etc mixed with knowledge about what these elements do (facebook iframe article, obvious in regards to analytics, etc). > In the (European) country I live in, public organizations have been prevented from invading privacy (e.g. setting CCTV cameras) by our national data protection commission. So public organizations are prevented from data gathering from themselves? Well that solves that problem. I'm sure if the NSA comes out and says they'll start enforcing protection against spying that some would even believe them! > How is web analytics and personal data mining a product of State spying? I'm not saying it is! I have no problem with facebook or google. I don't use facebook, and use google only to the extent I am comfortable with. Never have these companies used this information, some exploitable, to exploit me. They want me to use their services. On the inverse, could you explain to me in your own words why this legislation is necessary?

icebraining 13y ago

I volunteered to go to a website, that volunteered to use that service. I can choose not to visit the source sites or the associate ones. How do you know those sites have those trackers before visiting them? The only way to "opt-out" of the sites with such trackers is to stop using the web entirely. Against whom? Facebook? Google? How about GOVERNMENTS. Actually, yes. In the (European) country I live in, public organizations have been prevented from invading privacy (e.g. setting CCTV cameras) by our national data protection commission. If you ask me, any sort of nefarious behaviour commited by web companies are most likely the product of a larger, coercive form of behaviour starting from the government. How is web analytics and personal data mining a product of State spying? And even if it is, how is it justifiable on that basis?

tokenizer 13y ago
> How do you know those sites have those trackers before visiting them? The only way to "opt-out" of the sites with such trackers is to stop using the web entirely. iframes going to facebook, scripts going to google-analytics.com/ga.js, etc mixed with knowledge about what these elements do (facebook iframe article, obvious in regards to analytics, etc). > In the (European) country I live in, public organizations have been prevented from invading privacy (e.g. setting CCTV cameras) by our national data protection commission. So public organizations are prevented from data gathering from themselves? Well that solves that problem. I'm sure if the NSA comes out and says they'll start enforcing protection against spying that some would even believe them! > How is web analytics and personal data mining a product of State spying? I'm not saying it is! I have no problem with facebook or google. I don't use facebook, and use google only to the extent I am comfortable with. Never have these companies used this information, some exploitable, to exploit me. They want me to use their services. On the inverse, could you explain to me in your own words why this legislation is necessary?