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New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders
- mgkimsal 13y ago"Available to ship: February"
- patrickg 13y agoI wish this would be half the price tag... I'd buy it right away. Quoting from the page: "What's in the box - Mac Pro, Power Cord, Keyboard and Mouse sold separately". Funny that one of the three items really doesn't belong on that list.
- cwe 13y agoNo oxford comma: 'keyboard and mouse' are one entry in the list.
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- rayiner 13y agoRe: pricing, these are expensive but the specs are pretty aggressive: CPU - $300 RAM - $200 SSD - $200 GPUs - No exact model match, but the D300 seems to be a version of the FirePro W7000 with half the memory and half the memory bus width; those are $700 each on NewEgg. Motherboard is obviously custom, but one supporting Xeons and ECC memory can easily run $300-500. My guess is that it'd cost you well over $2,000 to build this yourself even before you get to the size, form factor, Thunderbolt, etc.
- rch 13y agoAdd $3000 for the 12 core. Really? Edit: actually , all together it still comes to what was projected. I just didn't expect so much of it to be in the CPU.
- TylerE 13y agoThat chip retails for $2,795, so not really that out there.
- km3k 13y agoApple doesn't pay retail. Also, that $3,000 is above the cost of the base CPU.
- rsynnott 13y agoFor this kind of niche chip they probably more or less do. It's mostly workstation-focused, and the Xeon workstation market is _tiny_. It's not like this is a Haswell i5 and Apple is buying 10 million of it; I'd be surprised if they're buying over a thousand of the 12 core per month.
- rch 13y agoI see that now. And I just tried to price an alternative system at Colfax and came up with $15K (included dual cpu, dual 400GB SSDs, and a Xeon Phi 7120P, no GPU). The Mac Pro is a niche product, but not really 'out there' as workstations go.
- brianwawok 13y agoThis is more Intel not Apple. http://ark.intel.com/products/75283/ http://ark.intel.com/products/75283/ Retail price for that CPU is 2.7k... you are paying maybe a $500 markup?
- rch 13y agoYeah. That was my next stop too. I was going to mention the cache, but it was too much of a pun.
- mgkimsal 13y agoDunno why, but I've always felt Apple (and others too) seem to chintz out on the 'upsell' portion. I just configured a new Mac Pro for $13k, and I still need to tack on another $69 for a trackpad. WTH? Couldn't they say - "hey, you're buying a machine for over $5k - would you like a complimentary mouse or trackpad with this?" EDIT: yes, I do know why. It feels stingy. That's why.
- davisr 13y agoTry looking at it from an ecological standpoint: if someone already has a working keyboard and mouse, why should they need new ones and create more waste?
- k-mcgrady 13y agoMake it a free configuration option. That way people can choose it if they need it (e.g. someone coming upgrading from a MacBook won't have a keyboard/mouse).
- sn0v 13y ago13k? Was that top of the line, or is there room for more? Also, yeah, I really don't see why Apple can't throw in a keyboard and mouse for free if you were to want one.
- mgkimsal 13y agoIt was a mac pro will all the trimmings (well... except for the keyboard and mouse!). Oh, and 4k monitor for $3500, so...the computer itself was around $9500. And they want to ding me for $49 for a keyboard. Make it optional and free if the configuration build is > $5k ???
- sbuk 13y agoIf you're prepared/have $13k to spend on a Mac Pro, what's $69?
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- darkstar999 13y agoI don't get it. Who is the market for these, and why?
- keithwarren 13y agoYou ever tried to edit 4K video? Real time editing is very important to post-production studios and when you are adding effects, rendering etc in a time sensitive environment - and you are a Final Cut person - then this is a great tool. This is not for your average dev or photo person, this is legitimately a 'Pro' machine aimed at very small a subset of Apple customers who actually mean quite a bit to the company. It is a quality perception game, when Hollywood is using your stuff you gain a certain mystique.
- gaius 13y agoIf you're doing 4K check out Dell, they actually have a monitor for it.
- keithwarren 13y agoI actually dont, but I leased office space in a post-prod studio for a long time and am still friends with the owner. There is a demand for raw horsepower on a level many people dont understand.
- gaius 13y agoI do understand :-) My preferred architecture for serious users at the moment is to have the horsepower in a datacentre, monster boxes with 96 cores and 2T RAM, connected to SAN via Infiniband/Fibre Channel, and on the user's desktop, a thin client, connected to it via gigE. Schlepping the data back from the DC to the office, crunching it on a normal desktop box and sending it back again is a wild goose chase.
- sounds 13y agoWithout being too verbose, have you configured your admittedly over-provisioned desktop as a thin client and actually tried the post-prod workflow this way? I'm just saying that it's being looked at, and current hardware is definitely _not_ up to the task.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoThey're offering a Sharp 4K monitor as an add-on in the configuration. Costs £3,499.
- FireBeyond 13y agoWell, there goes my decision to wait. Apparently the updated Cinema Display is not coming any time soon - certainly not before February. Seems like today would have been the perfect day to announce it. So Apple's high end display option is still a Thunderbolt Display that requires a Magsafe - Magsafe 2 adapter, only supports TB1, and only has a USB2 hub...
- taopao 13y agoTen thousand fuckin' bucks. They'll sell dozens!
- mathnode 13y agoAnother release of pro hardware from Apple. Another slew of comments everywhere from laptop peasants who don't understand the pro market, and can barely comprehend the competition.