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OpenDNS is not 'open' in any meaningful way, and it's not DNS (poisoned on an opt-out basis). It's not fast either: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=497959

by blasdel 17y ago

OpenDNS is not 'open' in any meaningful way, and it's not DNS (poisoned on an opt-out basis). It's not fast either: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=497959 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=497959 I don't know how the hell they managed to market themselves so successfully as the answer to "my ISP's DNS sucks", especially when their entire business model is so straightforwardly evil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_Finder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_Finder

rjurney 17y ago
Wait, let me get this straight: They're evil for providing global DNS you can use from anywhere because of something verisign did? And their service is terrible because its not quite as fast as your ISPs DNS which is much closer to you? Bitter much? People like OpenDNS because you can set and forget it, as you move around networks. Its nice. If you don't like it, don't use it. But spare us your outrage, mm-kay? ;)
- blasdel 17y ago
  Their service is a much more invasive version of what Verisign was rightly excoriated for -- they don't stop at squatting on wildcard DNS + malware domains, they proxy Google search! My shitty ISP's DNS is only slower than OpenDNS on my ISP's awful internal network that routes my DNS packets over it's internal network cross-country for no reason -- on the internet backbone OpenDNS is marginally slower. Both are completely blown out of the water by Level3's free public DNS (4.2.2.1 - 4.2.2.6). OpenDNS's claims to speed are bullshit, and they don't even seem to try -- I've only ever seen packets routed to them via NTT/Verio, which is the least-connected and highest-latency Tier 1 Network.
  - gscott 17y ago
    I hate that when using OpenDNS on my computer if I ping a site that is down the ping is returned from another IP address. I am less bothered by if the site doesn't exist, they load the search page from OpenDNS I would expect that as they have no other way to make money.
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jimmybot 17y ago
I knew of the Site Finder incident, but I am not very familiar with the details. That said, isn't the big difference with OpenDNS that it is opt-in? You don't have to use it if you don't like the advertising component, but they are providing much more than redirects of unregistered domains. They also correct misspellings, block phishing sites, and any other category of domains you want to filter out. Especially in a corporate setting, it seems like they can provide quite a bit of convenience.

by blasdel 17y ago

rjurney 17y ago

Wait, let me get this straight: They're evil for providing global DNS you can use from anywhere because of something verisign did? And their service is terrible because its not quite as fast as your ISPs DNS which is much closer to you? Bitter much? People like OpenDNS because you can set and forget it, as you move around networks. Its nice. If you don't like it, don't use it. But spare us your outrage, mm-kay? ;)

blasdel 17y ago
Their service is a much more invasive version of what Verisign was rightly excoriated for -- they don't stop at squatting on wildcard DNS + malware domains, they proxy Google search! My shitty ISP's DNS is only slower than OpenDNS on my ISP's awful internal network that routes my DNS packets over it's internal network cross-country for no reason -- on the internet backbone OpenDNS is marginally slower. Both are completely blown out of the water by Level3's free public DNS (4.2.2.1 - 4.2.2.6). OpenDNS's claims to speed are bullshit, and they don't even seem to try -- I've only ever seen packets routed to them via NTT/Verio, which is the least-connected and highest-latency Tier 1 Network.
- gscott 17y ago
  I hate that when using OpenDNS on my computer if I ping a site that is down the ping is returned from another IP address. I am less bothered by if the site doesn't exist, they load the search page from OpenDNS I would expect that as they have no other way to make money.

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jimmybot 17y ago

I knew of the Site Finder incident, but I am not very familiar with the details. That said, isn't the big difference with OpenDNS that it is opt-in? You don't have to use it if you don't like the advertising component, but they are providing much more than redirects of unregistered domains. They also correct misspellings, block phishing sites, and any other category of domains you want to filter out. Especially in a corporate setting, it seems like they can provide quite a bit of convenience.