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A browser is one thing. But an OS? I have my doubts.

by Oompa 17y ago

Xichekolas 17y ago
Why? People surely said the same thing about Linus at one point.
seldo 17y ago
You have to re-think what is meant by an "operating system". What is Windows? It's that thing, in the background, that lets you run all the applications you want to run. But what if all your applications were written in Javascript and HTML, and had URLs instead of .exe files? With all the extra power built into Chrome, they could still write to file systems, store data, work offline, do sophisticated graphics and parallel processing -- these are not hypotheticals, this is what Chrome can do right now. We're just beginning to scratch the surface of what an app written from Chrome can do. Chrome can be an OS, for some value of "OS".
- msie 17y ago
  If they depend on Javascript as an applications language then I hope they add goto to the language. At least that's what another HN discussion has led me to believe.
- sovande 17y ago
  When the iphone was first released, development was going to be via javascript and safari. That didn't go too well with neither users nor developers. Isn't this going to be the same thing? And for the so called windowing system I would not hold my breath and except anything like quartz. Its probably going to be just enough framebuffer code to drop X11 so the browser window can run in fullscreen. The window manager will then be implemented in javascript. Wee!
  - ZeroGravitas 17y ago
    That's a common misconception. When the iPhone was first released, development was restricted to web apps and they didn't have access to any API. The fact that it was javascript and HTML was mostly tangential to the complaints of people who wanted to install (and sell) local apps, with access to the unique hardware, though obviously existing Cocoa coders, 3D game programmers and anyone needing to get close to the metal weren't going to be happy even if these other elements were taken care of. On the other hand "fart apps" and things that are basically light wrappers round existing web apps have no such problem. See the Palm Pre for someone taking this to it's logical extreme.
wmf 17y ago
I suspect that Google is not so much developing an OS as taking a Linux distro and removing the parts that aren't necessary to run Chrome.
ptomato 17y ago
You're forgetting, though, that it is an OS that (appears) to consist solely of an environment to boot a browser as rapidly as possible. And, really, it consists more of linux kernel modified for rapid boot, probably optimized for low battery usage etc. They are not building an entire OS.
- shiranaihito 17y ago
  This is what it sounds like. I'm reminded of the time when Chrome came out and Arrington flipped: "z0mg it's a cloud operating system!1! the future is here!"

A browser is one thing. But an OS? I have my doubts.

by Oompa 17y ago

A browser is one thing. But an OS? I have my doubts.

Xichekolas 17y ago

Why? People surely said the same thing about Linus at one point.

seldo 17y ago

You have to re-think what is meant by an "operating system". What is Windows? It's that thing, in the background, that lets you run all the applications you want to run. But what if all your applications were written in Javascript and HTML, and had URLs instead of .exe files? With all the extra power built into Chrome, they could still write to file systems, store data, work offline, do sophisticated graphics and parallel processing -- these are not hypotheticals, this is what Chrome can do right now. We're just beginning to scratch the surface of what an app written from Chrome can do. Chrome can be an OS, for some value of "OS".

msie 17y ago
If they depend on Javascript as an applications language then I hope they add goto to the language. At least that's what another HN discussion has led me to believe.
sovande 17y ago
When the iphone was first released, development was going to be via javascript and safari. That didn't go too well with neither users nor developers. Isn't this going to be the same thing? And for the so called windowing system I would not hold my breath and except anything like quartz. Its probably going to be just enough framebuffer code to drop X11 so the browser window can run in fullscreen. The window manager will then be implemented in javascript. Wee!
- ZeroGravitas 17y ago
  That's a common misconception. When the iPhone was first released, development was restricted to web apps and they didn't have access to any API. The fact that it was javascript and HTML was mostly tangential to the complaints of people who wanted to install (and sell) local apps, with access to the unique hardware, though obviously existing Cocoa coders, 3D game programmers and anyone needing to get close to the metal weren't going to be happy even if these other elements were taken care of. On the other hand "fart apps" and things that are basically light wrappers round existing web apps have no such problem. See the Palm Pre for someone taking this to it's logical extreme.

wmf 17y ago

I suspect that Google is not so much developing an OS as taking a Linux distro and removing the parts that aren't necessary to run Chrome.

ptomato 17y ago

You're forgetting, though, that it is an OS that (appears) to consist solely of an environment to boot a browser as rapidly as possible. And, really, it consists more of linux kernel modified for rapid boot, probably optimized for low battery usage etc. They are not building an entire OS.

shiranaihito 17y ago
This is what it sounds like. I'm reminded of the time when Chrome came out and Arrington flipped: "z0mg it's a cloud operating system!1! the future is here!"