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What's apparent is the fact that you are incapable of analysis. If you bothered to read the other thread, you'll see parallels to the current situation: - tra

by sheetjs 13y ago

What's apparent is the fact that you are incapable of analysis. If you bothered to read the other thread, you'll see parallels to the current situation: - transaction delays on the order of 1 week - Coinbase is blaming technology (last time it was a database migration, this time server upgrades) - Customer support has been silent (znowi described it as "information vacuum" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5427985 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5427985) - Online account system called into question, users unaware of current positions (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5428090 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5428090) If this were the first time, you can cut some slack if Coinbase responded appropriately and took steps to prevent this from happening in the future. Based on what played out recently, it's not clear if Coinbase actually learned anything from the previous issues. And in the future, if you ever do decide to start a company and find yourself in a similar situation, I hope you would be a bit more communicative and proactive than Coinbase was in this case.

jessedhillon 13y ago
You're changing the subject to something which is not in dispute. You said that the standard approach on HN is to silence criticism -- a stupefying statement, given that at the time you posted it, this conversation had maybe 100+ comments and had been on the front page for a while. Also, in that same comment, you linked to another voluminous thread criticizing Coinbase. Amazingly, the existence of your comment strongly mitigates against your thesis being true. I think you must realize this at some level, as you have chosen to employ the age-old tactic of the inescapably wrong: quietly change subjects and hope nobody notices.
- sheetjs 13y ago
  There is zero ambiguity in the PG quote > Strictly speaking I should have killed the post entirely And this was 9 months ago. We are left to assume that the policy was enforced (after all, if the post were killed, it wouldn't show up in a search). And even in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6931168 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6931168 > I've been keeping my mouth shut here about Coinbase after starting that thread 9 months ago. I wouldn't be surprised to hear others echo the same sentiment (concern about expressing grievances about Coinbase) especially after PG's responses in the original conversation. Others in the original thread refuted the argument you are presenting, so I recommend you start https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5428757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5428757 before rehashing arguments that have already been addressed
  - jessedhillon 13y ago
    Sign #1 that should have given you pause: in order to disprove your assertion a person would need to prove a negative, i.e., prove that no criticism was nullified. If you don't see what the problem is here, you may need a course in critical thinking.
    - sheetjs 13y ago
      (pointing to the statement that HN is not a support forum) + (commenting that PG should have killed the thread) = (PG is likely to kill all threads that may seem like support requests) Given that many defenders of coinbase, including PG, are seeing support requests as criticisms, (threads that criticize coinbase = threads that seem like support requests) in their heads. Therefore, (pointing to the statement that HN is not a support forum) + (commenting that PG should have killed the thread) = (PG is likely to kill all threads that may seem like support requests) = (PG is likely to kill all threads that criticize coinbase)

by sheetjs 13y ago

jessedhillon 13y ago

You're changing the subject to something which is not in dispute. You said that the standard approach on HN is to silence criticism -- a stupefying statement, given that at the time you posted it, this conversation had maybe 100+ comments and had been on the front page for a while. Also, in that same comment, you linked to another voluminous thread criticizing Coinbase. Amazingly, the existence of your comment strongly mitigates against your thesis being true. I think you must realize this at some level, as you have chosen to employ the age-old tactic of the inescapably wrong: quietly change subjects and hope nobody notices.

sheetjs 13y ago
There is zero ambiguity in the PG quote > Strictly speaking I should have killed the post entirely And this was 9 months ago. We are left to assume that the policy was enforced (after all, if the post were killed, it wouldn't show up in a search). And even in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6931168 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6931168 > I've been keeping my mouth shut here about Coinbase after starting that thread 9 months ago. I wouldn't be surprised to hear others echo the same sentiment (concern about expressing grievances about Coinbase) especially after PG's responses in the original conversation. Others in the original thread refuted the argument you are presenting, so I recommend you start https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5428757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5428757 before rehashing arguments that have already been addressed
- jessedhillon 13y ago
  Sign #1 that should have given you pause: in order to disprove your assertion a person would need to prove a negative, i.e., prove that no criticism was nullified. If you don't see what the problem is here, you may need a course in critical thinking.
  - sheetjs 13y ago
    (pointing to the statement that HN is not a support forum) + (commenting that PG should have killed the thread) = (PG is likely to kill all threads that may seem like support requests) Given that many defenders of coinbase, including PG, are seeing support requests as criticisms, (threads that criticize coinbase = threads that seem like support requests) in their heads. Therefore, (pointing to the statement that HN is not a support forum) + (commenting that PG should have killed the thread) = (PG is likely to kill all threads that may seem like support requests) = (PG is likely to kill all threads that criticize coinbase)