I used to agree with you until I talked to people who own a Surface. IMHO Surface Pro's point in the design space is, in order, (1) a powerful Win8 tablet for m

I used to agree with you until I talked to people who own a Surface. IMHO Surface Pro's point in the design space is, in order, (1) a powerful Win8 tablet for most corporate work, (2) a good computer when docked to a big screen and keyboard, and (3) a small laptop when you need it (11" Air). That's actually a pretty good idea. I won't buy a Surface because (3) is the most important thing for me, so I require a 13"-14" laptop. Most HNers don't need (1) because they aren't in a MS IT environment. But for the bulk of non-tech Fortune 500 employees a Surface is pretty good, though expensive. The same goes for Win Phone. They could be the new Blackberry if they stop chasing consumers. They will always be behind on apps, but they can succeed by having corporate apps deeply integrated with MS IT infrastructure. Neither iOS nor Android can do that. Finally, MS is not known for getting things right in the first few releases. They ship crap and iterate towards adequate.